Anybody here using a homemade 2 part supplement?

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I just finished reading Randy's recipes for the 2 part Alk & Calcium supplements (but I think 3 part is more accurate since he uses a magnesium supp. as well ) . I was hoping somebody with experience using homemade recipes could give me their feedback on making it myself vs. buying stuff at stores. I know it'll be cheaper to make myself, but is it really as good as he claims?
Also, what other chem suppliments are you using in addition to these, or are you simply using jus the 2 part solutions?

background: I've been using a line of seachem products following a supplement regime listed at garf.org but lately my Alk won't go over 8 dKH and my calcium stays about the minimum 400ppm. My original thoughts were that my LPS corals , specifically my frogspawn and hammer, have started showing an increase in growth that was never present before and are using up more of the Calcium and whatnot. And since I'm going to be upgrading to a 150g in the future, I'd like to find ways to cut down costs, and making this stuff up myself would definatly cost less than dosing my tank with lot's of expensive products that may not be as good as the manufacters claim them to be.

I've also had problems with the pH venturing a bit too low (7.8) but I think that was due to CO2 levels in the house, Added more aeration and the pH seems to be leveling back around 8.1-8.3.
 
I use it. It works great. I only dose 2-part and limewater to my tank. Anything else is taken care of with water changes. FWIW, the hardest part about mixing your own is mixing the Sodium Bicarbonate into the water. It takes for ever. I resorted to using out blender to give my hands a rest ;) The Calcium Chloride went into the water easy. A work of warning, the chemical reaction that takes place between the CaCl and the H20 get really hot. Nothing that will burn your hands, but we're talking up to 150+ºF. I couldn't lift the jug that I mixed it in for very long. Of course, I'm also a wuss when it comes to heat.
 
I'm not concerned about the baking soda not mixing well, i have to mix that stuff up on a weekly basis for my discus tank DIY co2 setup, and you're right, it's a PITB (that's right, I censored my abbreviation!)
 
:lol: Censored abbreviations. That's funny.

So, how do you mix your BS? It took me hours with a blender to get really close. I poured what I had in a container and put what little bit left was down the drain. I'm sure I'm going to have to use a little more Alk supplement to get the job done, but the fact that $5 of baking soda can make many gallons of Alk Supplement just makes it worth while.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8472527#post8472527 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis L. Stevens
:lol: Censored abbreviations. That's funny.

So, how do you mix your BS?

you're going to like this, I simple say "Jess, your tank needs more CO2!" and it's done, easy as pie. now the way she mixes her BS is different, she uses a wisk or fork or whatever utensil is clean at the time and mixes and mixes while we're watching TV. I plan to buy a small blender for this in the future. luckily, for the C02 we use, it's not really a whole lot of baking soda being mixed up at any given time. I think we use about a 1/2 a cup or so in a 2 liter. And since it's only added as a buffer of sorts (it helps keep the homemade yeast/suger co2 last a bit longer) it's not always neccesary and sometimes she'll leave it out.
 
Okay, here is a question for you. I know that you're making CO2 with the yeast/sugar, but I had no idea that the baking soda was necessary for it. Could you also just do baking soda and vinegar in a container? ;)
 
The baking soda isn't necessary at all, when you buy the co2 stuff from petsmart, the baking soda is the stuff they refer to as "stabalizer". All it does is cause the mixture to last a bit longer, but i believe it also causes it to put out less co2 at any given time.

as for vinegar and baking soda, I really dont' know anything bout that. I failed chemistry in high school, guess i should have paid better attentions uh?
 
I've found it very difficult to find DowFlake in Stillwater, Tulsa, and OKC. Instead, I used DuPontâ"žÂ¢ Pool Care Calcium Hardness Increaser. It is 94% Calcium Chloride.

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I also looked at a couple of De-Icers that were mainly Calcium Chloride, but they had other ingredients that I didn't trust.
 
Home Depot will not have it in OKC, they never had it when I was looking for it. Wasn't even on a product list they could order from.

Anyhow I have been using the 2 Part for about 2 years now. Saved lots of money over buying SeaChem products.

You can buy DowFlake at Univar in OKC

Univar USA
3320 S Council Rd
Oklahoma City, OK 73179-4409
US

(405)745-2376
 
Guess I could add what I gave for it 2 years ago.

50lb?(Could be larger) bag is about $20, you could split 4 ways and have plenty to last you for a long long time.
 
Im still have lots left of the bag me and Chris split. It lasts forever.

When I mix my two part I heat the water to near boiling and then add the BS or Dowflake. It seems to help disolve either pretty well.
 
there is a place down on reno we got it at from like 12 bucks for 40 lbs, they also got us scientific grade baking soda as well. Spent like 23 bucks total. I dont remember the name of it, i will look it up later on tonight
 
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