macawmagic
In Memoriam
don't forget though that a 60 lb. rock underwater doesn't weigh 60 lbs. I've had hermit crabs hold on and life up like 5-10 lb rocks. and snails that I can't even pull off the glass. i would deff go at it with the pliers and knife...if you grab him with the pliers and he won't let go...start cutting underneath him.