Anyone stock nanostream 6025

[ReefArtist]

Well it really wasn't a recall, it was more of a purchase find that it's sucking water in and not out. You make the call to the manufacturer (Tunze) to get it fixed. I spent over 60 buck for the 6025 and that is what I found. They were great to work with and they sent the impeller with magnet to me to fix the problem. I felt they could have handled the problem better - send the impeller with magnets to LFS and fix the problem before people purchase would have been nice.

 

[markandkristen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9505719#post9505719 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hrstrnr
Well thats good to know... I might order another pair of 6025's now instead of the 6045's, do the mod and save myself the $60...

yep i think if you read the forum that the 6025 is better than the 6045 modded anyways for the money. you can have three 6025s instead of two 6045s. i love mine.

 

[guntercb]

I thought I would post and let everyone know I picked up two NanoStream 6045s from John this past weekend. I thought I wanted the 6025; however, after talking to John he told me that the 6045s would not create a sand storm in my tank. He stated that the flow is wider for the 6045s than the 6025s. So I took his advice and bought two 6045s. So far I like the units. They put out lots of flow but it is wide and not too fast. If you are looking for turbulent flow stay away, but if you want some good linear flow these babies rock.

Now I just need to save up and figure out how to do a good alternative currents in my tank. Any suggestions? So far I have a return pump that puts out roughly 700 gph and two nanostreams 6045, but no alternative currents. So my tank is kind of static looking. I want to see my corals sway every few seconds. Any suggestions and no wavemakers for the 6045, Tunze says that is bad so that is not an option in my tank.

Wavyseas??? Tunze Wave Box??? Other cheaper solution? Cheaper is better, but not if I have to redo it. (-:

Thanks for the advice.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[ReefArtist]

I get great different/movement current by my Nanos and my return flow hitting in the middle of the tank. It's not crashing - smooth, and it keeps everything moving in a nice way. Just a cheap suggestion - but I do have a small tank 65g.

 

[guntercb]

ReefArtist,

Yeah, I may play around with my nanos positions and see if I can get some random effects from bouncing the current off the glass, but I don't think I will get the current movement I am looking for.

Did you do this with your mod'ed 6025?

And yes this is on my 120 so the distance is a little larger.

Thanks,
Chris

 

[ReefArtist]

I haven't done the mod to the 6025 - I just got the part from Tunze to fix the flow problem.

That is a larger area 125g vs 65g but it is amazing the flow patterns I get - very random. I have a 35-40 head torch on one side of the tank and I love the way the tentacles move - very random. I actually was surprised as I really didn't think I would get that type of movement. I did have to play around with the pumps to get this but it is working for me. I have two 6025's (Left/Right), one MJ1200 with Hydor Flo and then my return that I have split. I've been making clay rock covers to hide the pumps - I don't like seeing all the hardware in the tank and they seem to be working out good. Once I get them perfected I'll start a new thread and let people in the TB area try them out.

The problem with all the pumps is the heat they produce - once you get over two/three I'd be looking at larger pumps or OM4 (closed loop). My larger tank will definitely have OM4's - less heat and no pumps inside - I can make small clay covers to hide the hardware, which I'm already testing .

 

[triggerfish1976]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9520977#post9520977 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by guntercb

Now I just need to save up and figure out how to do a good alternative currents in my tank. Any suggestions? So far I have a return pump that puts out roughly 700 gph and two nanostreams 6045, but no alternative currents. So my tank is kind of static looking. I want to see my corals sway every few seconds. Any suggestions and no wavemakers for the 6045, Tunze says that is bad so that is not an option in my tank.

Wavyseas??? Tunze Wave Box??? Other cheaper solution? Cheaper is better, but not if I have to redo it. (-:

Thanks for the advice.

Cheers,
Chris

I have been thinking about adding a wavysea since they have came out with the Tunze adapter that allows you to rotate the streams back and forth (not sure if it is compatible with the nano's). They are a little bit pricey and I have heard several complaints about them breaking only after a few months so I have been reluctant to test them. I hear that will create random flow patterns so they might be worth a try.
If you want swaying motion then the Wavebox is the way to go IMOP. I run them on my tank and love them. I have a huge rose anemone and have to leave about a 6" open space around it because the tentacles sway back and forth and were stinging some of my corals.
I will try and do a short video to show you want I mean.

 

[ReefArtist]

Oh I agree Trigger - with a larger tank some kind of alternative solution is in order. OM4, OM8 the wavesea, wave box - I think with a larger area it's the only way to go.

Not to hi - jack but why do some people feel the wavemakers, pumps are the best and then others go with the OM4 or external pumps?

 

[amheck]

for those with the OM4 and setups like that, definitely the lack of pumps/powerheads in the tank is a huge plus.

Wavemakters, etc, are a cheaper version to get the same affect, IMO, but you have to give up tank real estate.

I'd personally go with a closed loop setup on a brand new install.

 

[ReefArtist]

Well that is what I was thinking until I added up the cost of a Tunze wave box and the a few of there pumps - way expensive. That's the reason I thought there must be something I'm missing - but there might not be. My next tank I will be going with the OM style - I just like not having pumps and being able to hide everything - mechanical. I must say - if it is going to show I do like my 6025's .

 

[BillyFSU]

Problems with OMs on CL's is the power usage and potential for leakage/cracked glass if it gets bumped. Also running a pump on a CL without any sort of prefiltration can quickly shorten the lifespan of the pump and void the warranty.

Problem with PH's is they are conspicuous and things get sucked into their intakes IME.


I'm planning on adding 2 of the nano 6055's at some point on a controller but I'm not sure if these would give me the flow I want when I upgrade tanks.

 

[guntercb]

ReefArtist,

I don't consider your question thread jacking, it is in the theme of my second question. I think some people don't like closed loops because if something in the plumbing breaks you can have a big mess and quickly drain your tank. However, with powerheads you don't have to worry about leaks. That is part of my decision to go with the streams. I had a small leak and did not want to risk another.

I think the reason you found the cost of wavemakers more expensive is because you looked at Tunze, but I do believe they are some of the best and you are right they are not cheap. The multi-controller and some streams and you can drop a thousand easy. I think Amheck is refering to MJs (or some other powerhead but not tunze) and and wavemakers.

Triggerfish,

I need to plan a trip on Saturday and come over to Pinellas and check out your tank with the wavebox and then check out other peoples like ReefArtish and CheckinHawk. (-:

Cheers,
Chris

 

[triggerfish1976]

I have run both closed loop and internal pumps for circulation and I prefer the later. I find that I practically have unlimited flow options and more flexibility with Tunze's whereas I was limited with a closed loop system. I went to bed every night thinking about the holes that were drilled in the bottom and sides of my tank and I kept having fish get stuck on my closed loop outlet holes. My electrical bill is less using internal pumps and they give off less heat than the extrnal pumps.

guntercb,

You're more than welcome to stop by but my tank may not be the best example of what a wavebox will do on your tank since I am running three (yes, I am an addict) but you will get a good idea of the general motion that they create.

 

[CMcNeil]

i run the closed loop,but i know once the tank is full i will have to add a few nano streams(or similar pumps)to get more random flow.

 

[ReefArtist]

Hey guntercb, you can come over to my house any time you like. It was nice meeting you on Saturday, we could have had a meeting right there - LOL.

Now I'm really confused on which way to go with my flow in my larger tank design. I might need to push around the numbers again - equipment cost, longevity, energy consumption, maintenance, long term effect on tank and the over all look. Good thing I have a few months before I need to make a firm decision.

 

[triggerfish1976]

Here are a few poor quality vids showing the water motion I get from 1 undersized Sequence Barracuda, 2 Tunze 6100's, and three waveboxes. You could probably get similar water movement in a smaller tank by just using 1 wavebox and a couple of streams.

Wall Hammer Coral


Branching Hammer


Yellow Rasta Leather Coral


Anthelia

 

[guntercb]

Triggerfish,

I like the video clips. I want a wave box!!!! A 600 gallon reef, I am coming over. Oh much is admission? (-:

ReefArtist,

I hear you there are no easy answers in this hobby. I think if money was no issue I would do streams on a multi-controller for current in my tank. I agree with what Triggerfish said about the closed loop. Another thing to remember is as your tank grows you will need more movement or different needs, a closed loop cannot easly be moved where you can move around a powerhead or add more. So another item to think about. )-:

Cheers,
Chris