Anyone sump a small cube or nano?

erikras

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I'm in the market for a small (25-30gal) cube. I had previously thought about going with a JBJ 28gal, but I like to tinker and probably wouldn't be happy with everything being integrated into the rear of the tank. Marine Depot has a sale on the Mr. Aqua 18x18x18 rimless 25gal cube. IMO, there's no point in a rimless cube if you have 20 hoses and wires hanging off the back so I'd like to build a "nano" sump to go in the stand. According to MD, you can drill this tank.

Has anyone built a tiny sump under a small cube? I figure it would only need to be large enough to house a small skimmer, some carbon and GFO, heater, and the return pump. This would leave only a powerhead or two in the tank and I'd probably pendant mount the lighting.

However, cramming everything into a sump that couldn't be any larger than 15x15, could get tricky.

Photos would be greatly appreciated!
 
Funny, I came across this thread searching for the same thing. I had a custom 18x18x16 cube built about a year ago and I'm just now getting it setup. I am going to be using a 7.5 gall. Mr. Aqua cube as my sump. If I find some good ideas I will post some links. GL.
 
Well I did purchase the Mr. Aqua 18x18x18 cube and matching stand. However, due to numerous defects I had to return the stand. The inside dimensions of the stand were only about 16x16 which severly limited sump choices. I'm going to build a stand that's closer to 24x24 which will really open up the possibilities. I'll probably go with a standard 10gal tank for the sump.
 
Check out the Eshopps Rs-75 sump (http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/ES-RS-75.html). Its' 18" wide (the shortest real sump I found). I used it with BC29 - it fits in the cabinet perfectly. Has enough room for a normal skimmer (small size for a nano), and you can find several pumps that will fit in the pump compartment. (e.g. Tunze 1073.40). I bought it from premium aquatics for like $100 or so a while ago.

Just to make sure it fits and the compartments are the right size I called them 10 times and had them measure w/tape measure lol. They patiently complied.

Spacey :D
 
Check out the Eshopps Rs-75 sump (http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/ES-RS-75.html). Its' 18" wide (the shortest real sump I found). I used it with BC29 - it fits in the cabinet perfectly. Has enough room for a normal skimmer (small size for a nano), and you can find several pumps that will fit in the pump compartment. (e.g. Tunze 1073.40). I bought it from premium aquatics for like $100 or so a while ago.

Just to make sure it fits and the compartments are the right size I called them 10 times and had them measure w/tape measure lol. They patiently complied.

Spacey :D

I'm actually looking at the RS-75. How's the build quality? Is it worth the price? Considering I'll have over $50 into converting a 10gal tank by the time i buy acrylic and make a filter sock mount and stuff, the Eshopps might be the way to go.
 
I have an 18 inch cube, a sump that would fit under the stand just would not be practical, so I built my stand bigger to fit a 10 gallon sump, a 2.5 gallon top off reservoir and there's still enough room for dosing containers.

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mic209,
That's exactly what I had in mind. I saw your build thread somewhere else with the stand. Didn't you just reinforce a bathroom vanity fixture? Thanks for posting a pic of the finished setup!
 
I'm actually looking at the RS-75. How's the build quality? Is it worth the price? Considering I'll have over $50 into converting a 10gal tank by the time i buy acrylic and make a filter sock mount and stuff, the Eshopps might be the way to go.
Build quality is top notch. It's a very useful piece of equipment. if the size works for you I would say it's worth the $100 or so to get it. Here are my reasons:

1) The size is very convenient. It's 18" long, 16" tall and 10" deep.
2) There is a place for a 1" bulhead and 4" sock (both supplied) so you just plug and play w/the drain line.
3) For microbubbles, there are two baffles with a foam block (sponge) in between. This is not ideal - I prefer the 3 baffles with no sponge but it is functional. You just need to take out the sponge every now and then and rinse it under tap water (not too frequently if you are using the sock).

As compared to converting a 10 Gal tank... well... there will be a lot of little things you have to do w/the 10 Gal tank to have it come close to usefulness. And even then it still won't be as good. The 10 G tank for startes is much shorter at only 12" deep and that's counting to the top of the rim. Those 4" are very useful (insurance) in a sump this size. Expense wise... well... you will need to get the baffles and silicone them in. Then you will (assuming the same functionality) need to get a sock/bulkhead adapter (Eshopps also sells one, but there are others). The latter runs about $30,- and then it's going to cost you some to get the baffles and some work to put them in. Oh and then a sock $7,- or so etc. and you are quickly diminishing the difference in cost.

I guess it depends how much you'd save but at this size I don't think you are saving enough to justify the effort. The cost difference would be much more significant with a larger sump (they tend to cost hundreds), at which point converting one of the standard glass tanks makes a lot more sense.

My personal feel is that I wouldn't do the 10G tank thing, but that's just me. And I am saying this after using that sump. If I didn't have very specific size restriction, I may have gone w/the 10G tank conversion but in retrospect I am glad that I was "forced" to go w/a real sump. In my situation the very specific size restriction - interior width of the BC29 stand - was just shy of 19" if I recall. So the 10g Tank would not fit. Meaning, that I would have had to go w/2 5G tanks, which complicated things significantly and as a result I rejected that idea.

But... good luck debating w/yourself... I spent weeks going back and forth in my head lol ;)

Spacey :)
 
I'm actually looking at the RS-75. How's the build quality? Is it worth the price? Considering I'll have over $50 into converting a 10gal tank by the time i buy acrylic and make a filter sock mount and stuff, the Eshopps might be the way to go.
Build quality is top notch. It's a very useful piece of equipment. if the size works for you I would say it's worth the $100 or so to get it. Here are my reasons:

1) The size is very convenient. It's 18" long, 16" tall and 10" deep.
2) There is a place for a 1" bulhead and 4" sock (both supplied) so you just plug and play w/the drain line.
3) For microbubbles, there are two baffles with a foam block (sponge) in between. This is not ideal - I prefer the 3 baffles with no sponge but it is functional. You just need to take out the sponge every now and then and rinse it under tap water (not too frequently if you are using the sock).

As compared to converting a 10 Gal tank... well... there will be a lot of little things you have to do w/the 10 Gal tank to have it come close to usefulness. And even then it still won't be as good. The 10 G tank for starters is much shorter at only 12" tall and that's counting to the top of the rim. Those 4" are very useful (insurance) in a sump this size. Expense wise... well... you will need to get the baffles and silicone them in. Then you will (assuming the same functionality) need to get a sock/bulkhead adapter (Eshopps also sells one, but there are others). The latter runs about $30,- and then it's going to cost you some work to put the baffles in. Oh and then a sock $7,- or so etc. and you are quickly diminishing the difference in cost.

I guess it depends how much you'd save but at this size I don't think you are saving enough to justify the effort. The cost difference would be much more significant with a larger sump (they tend to cost hundreds), at which point converting one of the standard glass tanks makes a lot more sense.

My personal feel is that I wouldn't do the 10G tank thing, but that's just me. And I am saying this after using that sump. If I didn't have very specific size restriction, I may have gone w/the 10G tank conversion but in retrospect I am glad that I was "forced" to go w/a real sump. In my situation the very specific size restriction - interior width of the BC29 stand - was just shy of 19" if I recall. So the 10g Tank would not fit. Meaning, that I would have had to go w/2 5G tanks, which complicated things significantly and as a result I rejected that idea.

But... good luck debating w/yourself... I spent weeks going back and forth in my head lol ;)

Spacey :)
 
Still working on my Mr. Aqua 7.5 gallon underneath a custom 18x18x16 cube. I am using the ecoxotic stand that they sell for their Nano, perfect fit but a little pricey. I want this to look really clean so I was willing to pay up. Found that the 7.5 gallon will give me just enough room (6" of water need for Bubble Magus skimmer & 5.5 inches for backflow, with 1/2" to spare). You might want to check out this return pump, Tunze Recirculation Pump/Powerhead Silence 1073.020. You can adjust the flow on the pump so no Gate/ball valve needed.
 
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