Anyone using a wavy sea to move a stream?
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Steve Atkins
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Yes, have had a 6100 running off one for the last few days.
I have one on trial to see if I can get it to work on my eurobraced tank without the pump having to hang as a big eyesore in the middle of the tank. Using a 90° pressure pipe elbow and a slight modification to Wavysea's Tunze mounting bracket, I have been able to tuck the pump right back against the tank side again and with one mod I plan to make tonight the whole mounting mechanism should become almost invisible from in front of the tank.
The bracket works well as intended but does not allow for a 90° angle (only about 85°). It only took about 10 minutes to modify however.
Will take some pics tonight.
So far this is looking like a great combination and I will probably put both 6100 on Wavyseas.
Steve
I have one on trial to see if I can get it to work on my eurobraced tank without the pump having to hang as a big eyesore in the middle of the tank. Using a 90° pressure pipe elbow and a slight modification to Wavysea's Tunze mounting bracket, I have been able to tuck the pump right back against the tank side again and with one mod I plan to make tonight the whole mounting mechanism should become almost invisible from in front of the tank.
The bracket works well as intended but does not allow for a 90° angle (only about 85°). It only took about 10 minutes to modify however.
Will take some pics tonight.
So far this is looking like a great combination and I will probably put both 6100 on Wavyseas.
Steve
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Steve Atkins
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Is that due to your overflow being at the end?
I have a pair of waveboxes and a reasonably large corner overflow, but still manage to get a 2.5cm wave when the 6100s are off. It drops to about 2cm when they are on.
Currently the 6100s are running without any control. Until adding the waveboxes and the wavysea I was thinking of getting a 7095 and some more 6100. Now I will just get a 7091 and the Y adaptor, for the two 6100 I have, and connect the photocell from the wavebox to the 7091.
Steve
I have a pair of waveboxes and a reasonably large corner overflow, but still manage to get a 2.5cm wave when the 6100s are off. It drops to about 2cm when they are on.
Currently the 6100s are running without any control. Until adding the waveboxes and the wavysea I was thinking of getting a 7095 and some more 6100. Now I will just get a 7091 and the Y adaptor, for the two 6100 I have, and connect the photocell from the wavebox to the 7091.
Steve
E-A-G-L-E-S
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do a search....there are a couple threads with people doing this....
Sullyman
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Steve, yes the overflow is an issue. While the tank was being built I started to buy tunze equipment for it, I have a wavebox, 3 6100's and a multi controler. The way it looks I may just keep 1 6100 and get a wavey sea to turn it, but like you mentioned I don't want the stream so far into the tank.
Matt, thanks but I think Steve can help me decide, he's got the same issues I have with the euro bracing.
Believe it or not I'm getting pretty good water movement from 3 hydro flows on 3 returns, 2 on the overflow end and 1 under the rock work at the other end of the tank.
Bob
Matt, thanks but I think Steve can help me decide, he's got the same issues I have with the euro bracing.
Believe it or not I'm getting pretty good water movement from 3 hydro flows on 3 returns, 2 on the overflow end and 1 under the rock work at the other end of the tank.
Bob
Steve Atkins
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Some pictures
The Eheim pump in the background has not been in use since adding the waveboxes.
Since taking the pictures, I have added an 8cm X 10cm black plastic plate above the pump to stop the occasional vortex sucking in air (would not be a problem without the waves). The glass sections I mounted the Wavysea on are a bit too high but I used glass I already had cut for something else. I might replace them with ones about 2cm lower at some stage.
Steve
The Eheim pump in the background has not been in use since adding the waveboxes.
Since taking the pictures, I have added an 8cm X 10cm black plastic plate above the pump to stop the occasional vortex sucking in air (would not be a problem without the waves). The glass sections I mounted the Wavysea on are a bit too high but I used glass I already had cut for something else. I might replace them with ones about 2cm lower at some stage.
Steve
Steve Atkins
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Where it is I can rotate it only about 90° as it either hits the wavebox or the plumbing at the back (gravity return from skimmer).
If I were to move it a few cm either forward or backwards it would clear one of those obstacles and be free to rotate about 300° but most of that would be spent aiming at the end wall, beside which it is located.
I haven't taken any scenic shots of the tank in a while, but these are from last July. I have moved some of the corals round since then.
Steve
If I were to move it a few cm either forward or backwards it would clear one of those obstacles and be free to rotate about 300° but most of that would be spent aiming at the end wall, beside which it is located.
I haven't taken any scenic shots of the tank in a while, but these are from last July. I have moved some of the corals round since then.
Steve
Steve Atkins
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As the corals have grown, most of the big acros from frags, I have had a couple of die-offs or near die-offs, usually starting at the base. This is a pretty good sign of circulation problems so I decided to sort it no matter what it cost. I would rather delay a HiFi upgrade than loose a 25cm wide coral colony that I had spent years growing.
Steve
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Steve Atkins
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The Wavysea was mounted on the edge of the glass underneath for a while as well. It worked quite well there but the new position got it further back and further away from the water (since it isn’t waterproof).
You can't use silicone to attach glass to acrylic, not successfully anyway. You can use chloroform to attach another piece of acrylic, although I think the acrylic tank builders use something better than chloroform.
Steve
You can't use silicone to attach glass to acrylic, not successfully anyway. You can use chloroform to attach another piece of acrylic, although I think the acrylic tank builders use something better than chloroform.
Steve
ShadowViper
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My main concern with the wavey seas is power outages. I don't remember if they either stay in a single constant posistion or go into full 360 degree mode. Either of those can be real troublesome. If it goes into 360 degrees then you run the chance of it turning toward the glass and blowing water out the tank. If its stays in a constant position this may risk damaging some corals depending on pump position vs. corals. I am personally holding off with waveyseas till they get memory backups for them.
Steve Atkins
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After a power outage, my one just stays in one place until it is reset.
Even if it did start doing 360° this would not be a problem for a eurobraced tank but that would not happen anyway as it would soon run out of cord on the stream and jam. It is not strong enough to damage the cord.
Staying in one place and aimed directly at a coral would be more of a concern.
Down here power cuts are pretty rare, at perhaps 2 short ones a year, nevertheless I have aimed the stream to sweep across the tops of the corals, as much as I could, to avoid this risk.
Steve
Even if it did start doing 360° this would not be a problem for a eurobraced tank but that would not happen anyway as it would soon run out of cord on the stream and jam. It is not strong enough to damage the cord.
Staying in one place and aimed directly at a coral would be more of a concern.
Down here power cuts are pretty rare, at perhaps 2 short ones a year, nevertheless I have aimed the stream to sweep across the tops of the corals, as much as I could, to avoid this risk.
Steve
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In the case of a power outage the Wavey Seas: stays in whatever position it was AND has a speed of 1. I keep mine in about 100 degree rotation at a speed of 7. I have considered getting a battery backup for it just because of this problem (I have two of them). I use them for water return but am also considering adding a third one with a 6100 attached. The force of a 6100 makes me nervous if it happens to point at corals. So until I get a battery backup, no 6100 + WS.
Steve Atkins
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The first Wavysea developed a fault - at low speeds it would jam, was jerky and would sometimes reset its stops. This has happened to someone else but seems to be pretty rare.
With a replacement unit, the Wavysea/6100 combination has been running well so I have ordered a 2nd Wavysea for the other 6100.
I have also replaced the straight pipe joiner, just before the Stream mounting bracket, with a 45° one and this lowered the pump about 3cm, just enough to prevent all but the very occasional vortex without the plastic plate used earlier. This change also means there is no longer a need to modify Wavysea's Stream mounting bracket.
All that remains is to get a 7091 and Y adaptor to give the streams some automatic power variation and a night mode.
Steve
With a replacement unit, the Wavysea/6100 combination has been running well so I have ordered a 2nd Wavysea for the other 6100.
I have also replaced the straight pipe joiner, just before the Stream mounting bracket, with a 45° one and this lowered the pump about 3cm, just enough to prevent all but the very occasional vortex without the plastic plate used earlier. This change also means there is no longer a need to modify Wavysea's Stream mounting bracket.
All that remains is to get a 7091 and Y adaptor to give the streams some automatic power variation and a night mode.
Steve
