Artificial food study for corals.

I finally got some reef roids and coral frenzy. I am using the roids first. I shut off pumps just like you said and gently pushed some over top and the all took it gonna do this once a week and will see if it helps growth and color. Thanks again grandis for all the help.
 
You're very welcome!
They all close with the food inside and ingest/digest the particles, as you will notice.
I'm glad you got the foods and you'll be too!!
Go slow and try to offer only what they consume.
I give you less than 2 weeks to begin to see more vibrant colors on robust polyps. They will start to reproduce and take off after a while.
They love Coral Frenzy just like Reef Roids.

:thumbsup:

I wish more people could post about their feeding experiences here.

Grandis.
 
Thank you for reviving this thread. Awesome information and observations. I will be following and I have a lot of reading in my tabs right now. Please keep it coming. :)
 
Hopefully others will post some of their observations and links here too. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the boost, zoafarm!!

I'm getting Reef Chili sometime this week, probably by Wednesday, and will finally try that out!! :thumbsup:

Grandis.
 
Ok, got through most of the reading...not all, but something struck me as I was reading.

"During sunset, the free zooplankton concentration rises quickly, as these animals migrate to the water column. This causes a rise in copepod (500-700 μm) concentration which is five times higher compared to daytime levels!"

http://www.coralscience.org/main/articles/nutrition-6/how-corals-feed

The article goes on to mention that the enemy of hobbyist feeding live zooplankton is heavy skimming during this higher concentration of copepods...although it does reinforce the necessity of the skimmer. Have you fed live zooplankton? Currently, my skimmer is always running. I was thinking of taking it off-line for two hours at night. Do you think this would have a negative effect?

After reading this thread, I'm switching to Reef Roids for a while. I hope this thread stays alive. I've gained so much valuable information. Although everyone has different observations, they are much better than opinions.
 
Ok, got through most of the reading...not all, but something struck me as I was reading.

"During sunset, the free zooplankton concentration rises quickly, as these animals migrate to the water column. This causes a rise in copepod (500-700 μm) concentration which is five times higher compared to daytime levels!"

http://www.coralscience.org/main/articles/nutrition-6/how-corals-feed

The article is talking about what happens in nature. That will depend on the place they observe and many variables, of course. That number can go up to many times higher than that. Five times is just an observation in a local where they got that result. Could be lower than 5X in some of the places where zoas are found too, of course, so...

The article goes on to mention that the enemy of hobbyist feeding live zooplankton is heavy skimming during this higher concentration of copepods...although it does reinforce the necessity of the skimmer.

If you are willing to feed live plankton with the skimmer running, yeah!! I wouldn't feed live plankton though...

Have you fed live zooplankton? Currently, my skimmer is always running. I was thinking of taking it off-line for two hours at night. Do you think this would have a negative effect?

I did in the past with collected plankton from the ocean!!! Not worthy. The reason I don't feed live plankton (yes, zooplankton is the only one I would feed, if so) is simply because we can substitute it by the available artificial cora food particles. Once the zoas are fed a high quality and right sized particle they will get what they need. Another reason is the crazy work one will have to put up with a live plankton (zooplankton) culture. Not to talk about the high nutrient level introduced in the system to be fed. No need for all that!!!

The text tell us how important food particles are for zoas thought! If they feed on plankton every day...

There is absolutely no need to stop skimming while target feeding artificial particle coral food or any live organisms to the zoas any time, if you do that correctly. Pumps need to be off while target feeding. I keep my return on and skimmer on 24/7. No problems.

Negative effects with the skimmer off for 2 hours? I don't think it would, but wouldn't do anything good either. If anything, it would stop removing organics for 2 hours. No reason at all to do that IMO. No sense. So, I wouldn't.

They are talking about trying to reproduce what nature does, just introducing the zooplankton in the system, not target feeding.


After reading this thread, I'm switching to Reef Roids for a while. I hope this thread stays alive. I've gained so much valuable information. Although everyone has different observations, they are much better than opinions.

Be careful with any food for inverts and fishes. Never overfeed them. Reef Roids is great when offered in moderated portions and in a target feeding process. Remember they can take only up to their limits. They're guts aren't that big. The result with Reef Roids is fast and even with small quantities offered to the zoas. You'll be able to tell in a week or so.
Pretty soon I'll try Reef Chili too. I've tried Coral Frenzy with very good response from the zoas and some improvement in growth/reproduction, just like Reef Roids. Moderation, remember!!

I'm glad you like the thread and hope to hear and learn from others as well!!
:thumbsup:

Cheers!!
Grandis.
 
Alright!
Got my ReefChili last week and tried yesterday.
Great product! Simply packed and smells wonderful!! :wildone:
I like the little spoon that came with it and the option of the bottle to squirt.
There is yeast in it and I think that is what made my skimmer to go a little crazy at the beginning. There is fish fat too among other good stuff.

Target fed, as aways, with powerheads off and left the return running this time.
Offered to the polyps and had a great response from all of them. I fed the PEs and smaller ones. Even my tiny ones too. I didn't use the bottle provided. Instead, I used one of my smaller droppers to let particles fall on the polyps, like I normally do. No pressure on them.
Some of the particles are kinda large for some smaller zoas, but they did grab the smaller particles and ingested.
After turning powerheads on, the polyps that I didn't feed were grabbing particles from the water column. That never happened with other artificial coral foods I've used before. At least not so much! Nice to see all those guys grabbing the food around!

Fishes went crazy and were trying to get the food from the polyps. You know how fishes are!!! :fish1: :fish2:
Of course it's just too early for me to tell you how good the food will do to the polyps, but I expect the food to be one of the best, if not the very best in the market after reading the article that I've posted here initially. I'll keep feeding only Reef Chili for a month and see if it makes any difference.

If you already have any positive feedback from your polyps after using Reef Chili for couple of months or more please share here, would you please?
:beer:

Keep ZOAing!!!
Grandis.
 
Update!
Look what I found today!
This video tell us more about Fauna Marin Zoa Food.

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He needs to stop the pumps!!!

I just have to add this one. Colors are just great!!!
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Enjoy!
Grandis.
 
For the Red Sea additives, as mentioned I use their RE ABC+ which is just one tub of all ABC elements and some trace elements mixed in the same ratios as found in croal skeletons. It has done a fantastic job of bringing my CAL levels to where I want (420ish) while also keeping all the other elements and alk in line with the calcium level. If I had a bigger system I would go with the regular A and B system but the ABC+ was designed for system under 55gal so it work for me.


As for Reef Chilli, I have been using this for 3-4 months now. All my zoas and palys respond well to it, grab and closing around the small particles, I sometimes mix it in the same cup as mysis as the paly's also like to eat mysis. I have seen nothing but great color on all my frags and good growth on most of them, especially the reds and pinks. I also cloud my SPS with the reef chilli when spot feeding and it seems to also love the extra sustenance, as well as softies and acans. I was also using 2little fishes phytoplankton, but it is not phyto and zoo like reef chilli is (AFAIK) so I have only used it here and there a bit, the coral seems to like it as well but probably not as beneficial as the chilli.

And yes my skimmer goes crazy when I feed plankton as well as all the microfauna in the tank.
 
While not really a zoa or soft coral food, my duncans and the larger paly's will readily eat New Life spectrum Thera+A fish food with gusto if it drifts into their tentacles. It's usually too large for the Zoanthids to take in. I have started to use Oyster feast (starting last week) and really can't tell if the zoas get anything from it or not. They close up, but I don't know if that is a feeding reaction or just a reaction to having a jet of water on them from the tube. I try to be as gentle as possible.
 
For the Red Sea additives, as mentioned I use their RE ABC+ which is just one tub of all ABC elements and some trace elements mixed in the same ratios as found in croal skeletons. It has done a fantastic job of bringing my CAL levels to where I want (420ish) while also keeping all the other elements and alk in line with the calcium level. If I had a bigger system I would go with the regular A and B system but the ABC+ was designed for system under 55gal so it work for me.


As for Reef Chilli, I have been using this for 3-4 months now. All my zoas and palys respond well to it, grab and closing around the small particles, I sometimes mix it in the same cup as mysis as the paly's also like to eat mysis. I have seen nothing but great color on all my frags and good growth on most of them, especially the reds and pinks. I also cloud my SPS with the reef chilli when spot feeding and it seems to also love the extra sustenance, as well as softies and acans. I was also using 2little fishes phytoplankton, but it is not phyto and zoo like reef chilli is (AFAIK) so I have only used it here and there a bit, the coral seems to like it as well but probably not as beneficial as the chilli.

And yes my skimmer goes crazy when I feed plankton as well as all the microfauna in the tank.
:thumbsup:

Thanks for the input!
Grandis.
 
While not really a zoa or soft coral food, my duncans and the larger paly's will readily eat New Life spectrum Thera+A fish food with gusto if it drifts into their tentacles. It's usually too large for the Zoanthids to take in. I have started to use Oyster feast (starting last week) and really can't tell if the zoas get anything from it or not. They close up, but I don't know if that is a feeding reaction or just a reaction to having a jet of water on them from the tube. I try to be as gentle as possible.

The way to know for certain if they really grab and ingest the food particles is to turn off all the pumps and release the particles above them. When particles fall on them, touching the polyps, you'll see if they actually grab them to ingest.

I've tried Life spectrum Pellets before and my palythoas and Zoanthus gigantus (so called "PEs") eat them. Smaller zoanthids weren't interested as much, of course. I don't offer LP pellets anymore, but still feed my fishes. Good food!!

As for the Oyster Feast I noticed that it would benefit more algae then my polyps, therefore I no longer use OF.

Grandis.
 
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