Australian breeding black clowns

[Peter Schmiedel]

Hi!

yesterday I acquired some very rare wrasse from an Australia shipment at my wholesaler. He also offered the breed clowns where the price tag was so high the retail needed to be around 100 $ per fish ??

Can they be better, different ot what ever that what we all breed at home? Or do poeple pay that much if "black nemo" speaks Australian slang???

 

[David M]

Not quite sure what you were saying there Peter but if I'm to understand that they have a wild caught mature pair of B&W ocellaris I'd say buy them at almost any cost.

 

[jacob30]

The only problem with buying a pair of claimed WC B&W Ocell. is that you really do not know if they are WC. Even in Australia WC B&W are not easy to come by. Unless I knew the distributor and collector I would not pay a lot more for them than normal retail. With that said if their morphology was ideal I would pay a little extra for them strictly for breeding purposes only.

If they hve an australian dialect they are good for infomercials and home improvement shows

 

[JHardman]

If they are truely wild caught black variant of A. ocellaris and spawning they are worth a LOT.

But being able to confirm the origin enough to satisfy someone is a whole other story. Personally I would demand the full paper work trail, which if they are truely WC should not be hard for the importer to produce, but impossible to produce if they are not WC.

 

[marinebetta]

Most likely they are CB black oscellaris. Most of the cost is in shipping and markup due to their "rarity". We recently had a shipment that had real nice juves but they retailed at about US$60-70......I refused to get any at that price.

Wild caught....now that's another matter!

 

[damer]

gday peter

if you can find out exactly where the shipment came from.

the mane collector of those here in australia was killed by a crocodile about 12 months ago (while out collecting near darwin). they are very hard to get here now, and have not seen them for ages.

regards

damien

 

[Peter Schmiedel]

I guess I did not made myself clear - sorry folks. The fish where breeding not wild cought. But bred in down under.

 

[oyvind]

I resently bought a pair of those, they came from England, juvs, beautiful and perfect stripes, they are now in a 10 gallon all alone. I have never seen black ocillaris before here in Norway (or anywhere else). But it looks like they are both a bit short nosed compared to my old breeding pair who died a month ago from amyloodinium, does anybody know if this is normal for the black variant or is it a malformation from breeding? As I now are whithout a breeding pair I hope to start breedning again whith those. They have already startet to fight and I can already see whitch of them will become the female! But I am a bit worried of the shape of their nose if this is a genetic malformation.

 

[JHardman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7533577#post7533577 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Peter Schmiedel
I guess I did not made myself clear - sorry folks. The fish where breeding not wild cought. But bred in down under.

Any breeding pair is worth more money. Their generational gap from WC could make them more valuable. So for example if they were bred from a WC pair in AU they would be a lot more valuable than say a pair that was the 5th generation from a WC pair.

Either way a spawning pair is generally valued at 2x to 5x the normal cost of a non spawning pair. Since they are blacks, that extra value should be more towards the 5x side than the 2x side as they are more difficult to get to spawn.

 

[bawater]

Hi Peter,

Captive bred should be 8mth-1 yr old. (just over an inch in size)?
With a dirty orange face.
If they are bigger and full black- Its worth to get 2.

If you don't see them in Brussels LFS(or less than 3 times in 6mths), the price will roughly stay the same - maybe a max $20 drop each.


Hope this helps
brandon

 

[Peter Schmiedel]

They looked pretty good and as far I can tell no missbarring or any other deformation was to be seen.

They most have been around 50 and about 5-10 of them where already completly black. The rest had the typical red/orange face some more some less.

So you guys are telling me I should have gotten some to get a potential breeding pair?