Australian rare fish pricelist

[suta4242]

ive never been to stores in sydney, only queensland and south australian ones, but i think this may be a dud website

patro since you've raised this on an international forum, why not just contact majestic and ask about the price list / fish availability yourself instead of speculating etc..?

FWIW our prices for some fish, eg stuff from the Caribean, is much dearer than in the states. While we can import fish, we also aren't allowed to import aquacultured fish. This also affects both prices and availability. Finally prices of fish like achilles tangs are very cyclical - at least locally. But its not all gloom and doom - except maybe for anyone silly enough to pay $20 for a turbo snail.

 

[skibum9884]

Yea, I gotta think that some of those fish they don't have (and the price is wrong).

If they have pairs of Personatus Angels, Feminus Wrasses, and True Personifers at that price, I'll take every single one they have.

 

[skibum9884]

But it is possible some of the other prices on the less rare fish could be correct.

 

[yeloowtang]

wow !!!
it's almost unreal to see the prices on some.

369$ for an atlantic blue tang !! it cost me 49$ here
and like others 119$ for a gramma 20-30$ here

however we are slowly starting to see the frag craze,a select few stores
are starting to frag zoas and sell by polyp,but the good guys are still selling
the big pieces for 30-60$ with 1000s of polyps on them hoping to cut the others off.even aussi acan are starting to show up already cut up instead of nice full colonies..

 

[t4zalews]

Im sure those are Australian dollars and not American Dollars, but still, those prices are rediculous. You would think you being next door to the barrier reef you'd get some good prices.

 

[DBarsotti]

I call shenanigans. The Aussie version of AquaCon?????!!

hahahah

 

[BrooksReef]

Those prices are insane! The $20 for a Turbo Snail cracked me up. :lolspin:

Im sure those are Australian dollars and not American Dollars, but still, those prices are rediculous. You would think you being next door to the barrier reef you'd get some good prices.

1 US dollar = 1.1119 Australian dollar... Not TOO much of a difference.

 

[patro]

patro since you've raised this on an international forum, why not just contact majestic and ask about the price list / fish availability yourself instead of speculating etc..?

FWIW our prices for some fish, eg stuff from the Caribean, is much dearer than in the states. While we can import fish, we also aren't allowed to import aquacultured fish. This also affects both prices and availability. Finally prices of fish like achilles tangs are very cyclical - at least locally. But its not all gloom and doom - except maybe for anyone silly enough to pay $20 for a turbo snail.

i raised this on an international forum cause i was intrested in showing the major price differences of the fish because most of the members on here are americans.

i understand why the prices are different, and i know the importing is hard. because we have such a valuable reef system, we are unable to attain some things that we want too.

when i first posted this i didnt mean to shame majestic aqauriums. i was just intended on sharing the pricing in australia. at first i thought they were correct. and only after studying some of the fish i was unfamiliar fish, such as the kingi, i thought the prices were correct.
i am happy you have this website, because it is hard to find a decent australian fish website.

 

[patro]

Yea, I gotta think that some of those fish they don't have (and the price is wrong).

If they have pairs of Personatus Angels, Feminus Wrasses, and True Personifers at that price, I'll take every single one they have.

well rule the personatus off the list, but the personifers and feminus' you can buy. they are found in australian waters and are much cheaper here.

to compare to american prices a juv. queen angel would be $600+ and a royal gramma $100+
this is because these two fish are found in the carribean. anything there is money money money.

if you interested in looking at fish that are found on the GBR or close i suggest you look at the this link http://www.cairnsmarine.com/atlas
it is australias largest marine catcher/wholesaler and they provide the world with fish.

 

[zaheda]

Do people pay those ridiculous prices for fish. What happens if it dies the next day? Id rather go on a diving trip with that bucks.

 

[skibum9884]

Wow. Too bad feminus wrasses ship so poorly. I'd love to see some in my tank Group buy anyone? If we got, say, 20 of them and split the ridiculous $700 or so international overnight shipping charge?

 

[patro]

Do people pay those ridiculous prices for fish. What happens if it dies the next day? Id rather go on a diving trip with that bucks.

yes people pay for them. just like americans pay for fish that we think are "ridiculous prices".
you do realise that the great barrier reef is marine park and is illegal to collect from without a permit, which to buy are a massive amount of money. and if you get caught taking your own, your pretty well screwed.

australia also doesnt have the market for aquaculturing.

 

[patro]

Wow. Too bad feminus wrasses ship so poorly. I'd love to see some in my tank Group buy anyone? If we got, say, 20 of them and split the ridiculous $700 or so international overnight shipping charge?

getting permission to export live fish/collected from australian waters is very hard and expensive in australia.

 

[skibum9884]

Ah, I see. So keeping them within Australia isn't as difficult?

I figured it was collection in general that was difficult, not exportation.

 

[Amoore311]

I obviously need to stock up on Royal Grammas and take them on a trip with me to Australia. Turbo Snails too for that matter.

 

[patro]

Ah, I see. So keeping them within Australia isn't as difficult?

I figured it was collection in general that was difficult, not exportation.

well yes they are hard to collect and dellicate fish.
but to export 20 as you said would be a challenge.

 

[The Escaped Ape]

I think people sometimes forget that the US has probably the largest marine hobby market in the world. The prices and range I've seen for livestock available in the US is consequently better and more competitively priced than in most other countries. I'm living in Japan, supposedly the market that gets all the cherries, and I can tell you that the hobby here is smaller and far less competitive as a result, with dry goods much more expensive (I buy my equipment from the US - even with shipping and import duty it's considerably cheaper). Even livestock here, although decent, is not available as cheaply or at such a wide range. Sure, some things are easier to find locally (at one stage when Acans were impossible to get hold of in the US, they were easily and cheaply available here. But the size of the US market is such that it quickly outstrips others (Acans are still available here, but in the same relatively dull shades they always were - I've not seen some of the crazy colors I've seen on here). There are some crazy collectors here, but they're sitting at the top of a much smaller pile than the collectors in the US.

I can't claim to know much about the Australian market, but to American hobbyists out there, I'd just remind you that, by and large, you're paying less and able to choose from more, than most other hobbyists round the world.

 

[rhoptowit]

^can agree with that. was in japan over the summer and visited some fish stores there. just as gas is cheaper in the US vs. most of the countries around the world, so is anything saltwater aquarium related.

 

[suta4242]

I think some of you guys don't realise how affordable the hobby is overall for the average U.S. reefer and why its different elsewhere in the world.

I can't claim to know much about the Australian market, but to American hobbyists out there, I'd just remind you that, by and large, you're paying less and able to choose from more, than most other hobbyists round the world.

That sums it up. You guys also import from round the world - we can only do that with fish and our population is tiny. Thats why fish don't come with 14 day guarantees either - although that may not be a bad thing. We also have a huge divergence in prices paid for the same species bought from local shops - sometimes 50-100%.

Theres an enormously inflated bureaucracy associated with collection & import and you can see where costs rise. That said a personifier here can be had relatively cheaply if I deal direct with a collector; but aren't readily available in shops due to low local demand.

The other thing is coral pricing. If you guys didn't have marketing gurus behind some of your fad corals they'd be a helluva lot cheaper; especially from some exporters who keenly watch what happens online and in auctions etc.... Everyone wants a cut of the pie. These ultra cherry picked acans aren't rare inthe true sense of the word at all. But you may as well maximise your collection of endemic corals because one day coral collection will be closed, as this is a political hot potato, especially in Queensland.

Finally, if you think our fish are expensive, you should look at our hardware prices. Recently I looked at importing a Deltec sc2060 from Germany. Why? Because its $3-400USD cheaper landed than the locally distributed ones. And its not just at the high end stock thats pricey, its Salifert test kits, cyclopeeze etc... JM2c

 

[patro]

I think people sometimes forget that the US has probably the largest marine hobby market in the world. The prices and range I've seen for livestock available in the US is consequently better and more competitively priced than in most other countries. I'm living in Japan, supposedly the market that gets all the cherries, and I can tell you that the hobby here is smaller and far less competitive as a result, with dry goods much more expensive (I buy my equipment from the US - even with shipping and import duty it's considerably cheaper). Even livestock here, although decent, is not available as cheaply or at such a wide range. Sure, some things are easier to find locally (at one stage when Acans were impossible to get hold of in the US, they were easily and cheaply available here. But the size of the US market is such that it quickly outstrips others (Acans are still available here, but in the same relatively dull shades they always were - I've not seen some of the crazy colors I've seen on here). There are some crazy collectors here, but they're sitting at the top of a much smaller pile than the collectors in the US.

I can't claim to know much about the Australian market, but to American hobbyists out there, I'd just remind you that, by and large, you're paying less and able to choose from more, than most other hobbyists round the world.

thankyou for you imput. the whole reason i posted this thread was to show the major price difference between the american market and australian market.