autocad

Dude, honestly get a clue. If you really beleive that downloading Autocad (or any licensed, or at cost software) and using it without paying for it is legal, then you really are a off the deep end.

Your trying to justify software theft by using a dictionary definition? And even worse trying to justify it on a FISH forum. This HAS NO PLACE HERE! Take you argument to a warez board where like minded numbskulls muse about ripping off the man and his overpriced software. In the meantime, don't be suprised if somebody here is kind enough to let the BSA know about your opinions and the distinct possibility that you may have a computer full of stolen software.

IF YOU DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE AND USE IT WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT, YOU ARE STEALING. PERIOD.

Lets look at the facts:

To use the software (autocad in this case) you must have a valid license key. Lets look at how you can get one:
1) pay for it, like the rest of us.
2) find one on the internet and use it.
3) obtain a cracked version of the software that does not need a key
4) obtain a key generator or other tool to bypass the security.

The only LEGAL way to use the software is if YOU BUY A LICENSE, or otherwise conform the LICENSE AGREEMENT (option 1). Options 2,3,4 constitute illegal use of the software.

The saddest part is that your brazen enough to steal openly tell others how to do it in a public forum, all the while saying it's not theft.

It's not like your just ignorant of the fact that you need to pay for this stuff and can't donwload it. That would be excusable to an extent. Instead you have gone out of your way to make an arguement that it is not illegal to use pirated software. That shows thought and planning on your part and certainly means that your not ignorant of the law or the software licensing issue. You just choose to view it in your own reality.

Did you ever stop to think that some of the members here may be law enforcment folks. Some that may even specialze in computer crime and software theft?

Amazing!
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7919857#post7919857 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
Dude, honestly get a clue. If you really beleive that downloading Autocad (or any licensed, or at cost software) and using it without paying for it is legal, then you really are a off the deep end.

Your trying to justify software theft by using a dictionary definition? And even worse trying to justify it on a FISH forum. This HAS NO PLACE HERE! Take you argument to a warez board where like minded numbskulls muse about ripping off the man and his overpriced software. In the meantime, don't be suprised if somebody here is kind enough to let the BSA know about your opinions and the distinct possibility that you may have a computer full of stolen software.

IF YOU DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE AND USE IT WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT, YOU ARE STEALING. PERIOD.

Lets look at the facts:

To use the software (autocad in this case) you must have a valid license key. Lets look at how you can get one:
1) pay for it, like the rest of us.
2) find one on the internet and use it.
3) obtain a cracked version of the software that does not need a key
4) obtain a key generator or other tool to bypass the security.

The only LEGAL way to use the software is if YOU BUY A LICENSE, or otherwise conform the LICENSE AGREEMENT (option 1). Options 2,3,4 constitute illegal use of the software.

The saddest part is that your brazen enough to steal openly tell others how to do it in a public forum, all the while saying it's not theft.

It's not like your just ignorant of the fact that you need to pay for this stuff and can't donwload it. That would be excusable to an extent. Instead you have gone out of your way to make an arguement that it is not illegal to use pirated software. That shows thought and planning on your part and certainly means that your not ignorant of the law or the software licensing issue. You just choose to view it in your own reality.

Did you ever stop to think that some of the members here may be law enforcment folks. Some that may even specialze in computer crime and software theft?

Amazing!

Very well said!
 
I guess I'm lucky, I have Autocad and Microstation at work.:D

Works great for designing stands, canopys and stuff.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7920824#post7920824 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55Reef
I guess I'm lucky, I have Autocad and Microstation at work.:D

Works great for designing stands, canopys and stuff.

Do you use Miscrostation for renderings, too..?? I use to use that in college for awesome photorealistic renderings... now I use Viz 2007 for renderings...

Jester
 
Thanks for turning me on to SketchUp. I just downloaded it and tried it out! I have been using Autocad and am quite good at it. Sketch up is very different - far simpler, faster, and with better results - at least for what I would use in terms of stands, tanks, sumps, etc. I layed out my sump in about an hour:

sump.jpg


Thanks for letting me know about this program.

I have also used turbocad. They used to have a 2D free version that worked for the simple stuff. I don't know if they still offer it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7927313#post7927313 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CoolUsername
Thanks for turning me on to SketchUp. I just downloaded it and tried it out! I have been using Autocad and am quite good at it. Sketch up is very different - far simpler, faster, and with better results - at least for what I would use in terms of stands, tanks, sumps, etc. I layed out my sump in about an hour:

sump.jpg


Thanks for letting me know about this program.

I have also used turbocad. They used to have a 2D free version that worked for the simple stuff. I don't know if they still offer it.

lookin good..!!!!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7927313#post7927313 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CoolUsername
Thanks for turning me on to SketchUp. I just downloaded it and tried it out! I have been using Autocad and am quite good at it. Sketch up is very different - far simpler, faster, and with better results - at least for what I would use in terms of stands, tanks, sumps, etc. I layed out my sump in about an hour:

:thumbsup:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7920824#post7920824 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55Reef
I guess I'm lucky, I have Autocad and Microstation at work.:D

Works great for designing stands, canopys and stuff.

We have a drafting lab at our school with Autocad on really nice computers (best computers in the school) so I have access to AutoCAD all the time too. And they upgrade AutoCAD whenever a new upgrade comes out (I'm looking forward to '07, haven't used it yet)
 
2007 isn't bad to use. I do some CAD on the side. I've heard for surveyers, 2007 is really bad. But I've never had any issues. I mainly use Civil but have used map and regular land with no issues.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7930996#post7930996 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jay24k
2007 isn't bad to use. I do some CAD on the side. I've heard for surveyers, 2007 is really bad. But I've never had any issues. I mainly use Civil but have used map and regular land with no issues.

Thats good to hear. 2006 was pretty different (the junk around the cursor, don't know the name :D ).

I'll be doing mostly 3D mechanical drawings this year (much better than architecture, IMO).. its really the only class I'm excited for :lol:
 
Yeah 2006 was hard to get used to. I just play with it sometimes, as I have access to it. It takes me longer to make a drawing with cad than it does on a drafting table.... so I use the table most of the time.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7941735#post7941735 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xtrstangx

I'll be doing mostly 3D mechanical drawings this year (much better than architecture, IMO)..

what do you really mean by that architecture comment..?!?!?! hehehee... I'm just messing with you... I'm two years out of college working for an architecture firm... I use to like the mechanical drawing classes that I took...

As for 2007, I havent used it all that mcuh yet, but it does seem to have some great new features... I am still running 2006 mostly, since everyone else in my office has 2006...

Jester
 
I personally like the ease and use of Solid Edge for any 3-D rendering. It is much easier to use that CAD, and I draw in CAD everyday for my job. See if you can find Solid Edge, or even Solid Works. They are the same program, and really give you a good idea of what you will be making! Much easier to lay things out too!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7942786#post7942786 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jester
what do you really mean by that architecture comment..?!?!?! hehehee... I'm just messing with you... I'm two years out of college working for an architecture firm... I use to like the mechanical drawing classes that I took...

As for 2007, I havent used it all that mcuh yet, but it does seem to have some great new features... I am still running 2006 mostly, since everyone else in my office has 2006...

Jester

The teacher that I had made us design our houses a certain way and in the end, it ended with a bunch of headaches cause things didn't work out right.
 
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