Avoiding Marine Ich transfer to new tank on inverts

[dedvalson]

Hi,

I have a 90 gallon fish and invert tank that I am pretty sure still has some Marine Ich in it. The fish that are in it have shown no sign of it for about six months, but I am convinced that it is still there. About six months ago I added a Foxface and it showed definite Ich which then "went away".

Anyway, I am building a new tank (180 gallon). I intend to transfer my fish to the new tank and will use the transfer method to make sure they have no Ich when introduced to the new tank. I am starting the new tank with dead rock and sand to ensure that it doesn't have anything bad in it.

My problem is my clam and anemone. I want to transfer them to the new tank and I am trying to figure out how to ensure I don't drag any ich over with them.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Don

 

[avandss]

I would do your transfer in steps.
ttm for all fish.
clam and anemome should be left in your cycled 90gallon once the fish are all out for 72 days.
At that point everything should be ich free

 

[snorvich]

I would do your transfer in steps.
ttm for all fish.
clam and anemome should be left in your cycled 90gallon once the fish are all out for 72 days.
At that point everything should be ich free

Exactly.

 

[wooden_reefer]

When ich has happened in DT, whatever method you choose to treat fish to eradicate ich on and around fish, you still have to support fish for 12 weeks to allow the DT to fallow out.

It is difficult, except for very small bioload, to support fish, without exposure to ammonia, for 12 weeks unless there is well-cycled medium created in advance.

TTM is OK if all the fish are already feeding well (and have been exposed to pathogenic bacteria for a few weeks to have antibodies).

 

[dedvalson]

I thought about just letting the anemone and clam stay in the old tank for 12 weeks as suggested, but I was planning on moving my lights from the old tank to the new one and the anemone and clown wouldn't do too well without lights.

I guess I can do this if necessary, but I would sure be interested in other alternatives if there are any.


Don

 

[avandss]

i really do not thing there is a safer alternative.

72 days will flyby! and you will be ich free

 

[dedvalson]

Thanks for your response, I guess I'll have to arrange something for the lighting. This leads me to a more general question though. Suppose I buy a clam, anemone or even a piece of live rock from a lfs? How do I handle quarantine to make sure I'm not importing ich via these inverts? Do people quarantine their inverts for 72 days?

 

[avandss]

please QT anything wet. it will save you tons of headaches down the road! 100% all inverts including snail, shrimp, crabs... anything wet!!

i set up a qt for coral and matched the tank lighting to properly acclimate them during the 72 day period

do not forget the countdown of 72 days begins with the last introduction, its not 72 per invert/coral, its 72 with nothing new added

you can see my setup here

(LOOK AT POST 146)
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334713&page=3

 

[dedvalson]

Wow, that is a nice quarantine system. I am going to try to do something like that. Can you answer a related question for me? I am planning on building my new tank with dead rock and sand to avoid pests. I was planning on a fishless ammonia based cycle. Everything I have read indicates the need for a piece of live rock to introduce the bacteria for the cycle. But if I quarantine everything wet, the seed live rock just be quarantined? Are you aware of any safe source for this bacteria seed that won't need quarantine?

Thanks

 

[firemountain]

please QT anything wet. it will save you tons of headaches down the road! 100% all inverts including snail, shrimp, crabs... anything wet!!

i set up a qt for coral and matched the tank lighting to properly acclimate them during the 72 day period

do not forget the countdown of 72 days begins with the last introduction, its not 72 per invert/coral, its 72 with nothing new added

you can see my setup here

(LOOK AT POST 146)
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2334713&page=3

Dude.....now that is a serious setup!!! The best is that your tank is big enough to snorkel in...wow!!

 

[tylersarah]

^And he has newborn twins

 

[avandss]

Wow, that is a nice quarantine system. I am going to try to do something like that. Can you answer a related question for me? I am planning on building my new tank with dead rock and sand to avoid pests. I was planning on a fishless ammonia based cycle. Everything I have read indicates the need for a piece of live rock to introduce the bacteria for the cycle. But if I quarantine everything wet, the seed live rock just be quarantined? Are you aware of any safe source for this bacteria seed that won't need quarantine?

Thanks

you can seed with any live rock, do not worry about qt since your cycle will take more then 72days. and as long as no fish is introduce you will be fine. honestly when you start with dry rock the cycle is long. it took me 6 months to seed my tank and finish my algae cycle.

you can not rush in this hobby, and the more patience you have the better you tank will look and the less money you will loose

 

[avandss]

^And he has newborn twins

haha thanks guys...

and trust me the twins are killlllllllllling me... its a really slow death