Baby Banded Trochus!!!

TulsaReefer

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To my surprise when I was cleaning the skimmer tonight I noticed a small banded trochus snail in the sump. I have banded trochus in my tank, but none in the sump. So I broke out the flashlight and started to study the sump and found that I have a number of little banded trochus all over the sump. Tiny ones about the size of a pea, to larger ones. I'll have to dig a few out and put them in the fuge so they don't end up getting sucked into a pump, but it looks like my trochus have had babies. I'm a new father again!!!

I'll try to get a few of the babies out and take pics.
 
Definitely. Trochus snails are broadcast spawners, and babies would be beating the odds. Could they possibly be Collonista Snails?
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They are identical smaller versions of my banded trochus I bought at Ultimate Reefs last month. After digging into the sump I found a number of empty shells, six total, and 3 live snails, and one more down in the skimmer where I couldn't get to it. The largest was almost the size of a dime, and it matches the others I have. The smaller ones are quite a bit smaller, I'll try to get some pictures.

What is a definative way to tell the difference between the two species? I'm willing to admit that they could be something else, just that I haven't added anything new to my tank (except maybe a frag or two) in years, other than 6 banded trochus this spring.
 
Didn't get any side shots, in a bit of a rush tonight, but here are a few that I did get of the shells that I found without live snails in them. The live ones are happily cruising around the sump, except for the one that is still cleaning the inside of my skimmer. I'll try to get it out if I ever catch it close enough to reach it.

To shot:

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Another top shot:

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Closer:

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Bottoms:

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I guess I can always just wait for a couple of the surviving babies to grow up and compare them to my other snails. The largest live one I found looks like the others I bought, but I'll have to wait until I can get a good look at it to make sure the foot and everything else looks the same as well.
 
All I can say is wow! Those definitely look like Trochus. The top down shots had me worried that they might be a type of Architectonicidae snail (Sundial) because you can't see the conical reference to the shell shape, but once they lay on their side, it defeinitely looks like that. If you can, take a shot of the operculum of a living snail. Just flip them over and make them close up and shoot. As long as the little piece down there isn't conical also, I think you defintely have a Trochus. In fact, I'm pretty convinced it's a Trochus, but that would take care of any doubts. So, Congratulations is in order.
 
I'll try to get some more detailed pics this next weekend, work is keeping me busy this week. Looking at one of the juveniles in the fuge, from the bottom the foot and everything else looks exactly like the rest of my trochus.

I'm as skeptical as you Travis, it's unusual for banded trochus to actually breed in a tank with a skimmer and everything else. I'm not sure yet what is different in my tank/sump that allows them to survive. I'll definately keep an eye out for more in the future though, as it seems there isn't much for them to eat in the sump and all the empty shells may have been due to lack of food. The ones that seemed to have survived were living in my skimmer, which has had a problem in that once I added a light to my fuge, the light spill over to the skimmer causes it to grow a film of algae and lots of coraline as well. They probably found enough food in there, as 2 of the 3 surviving that I found were in the skimmer body. The other mystery is that it seems there are multiple generations from the big size difference between the largest I found and the smallest. The smallest was in the photos, and was pretty small, the largest was a live one and it's probably just under the size of a dime. I doubt that size variation would have been from one brood. Now that I know to look I'll keep a close eye out for juveniles, and transfer them to either my frag tank, or the fuge where there is more to eat. It would be really cool if they kept breeding, considering I only have a few adults in my tank now.
 
That is really cool, Lee. I'm shocked. There could be a size difference from the same brood. Factors like settle time and diet could have played a major role. If one settled out of the larval stage before the others, it could have grown faster. Also, if one had more access to some better nutritional algae, it could have grown faster. Either way, these are all just assumptions, and I'm just excited to see someone that actually has some true baby snails, and not something that is accidently misidentified.
 
Yeah, things like this are really fun, when something completely unexpected happens. Now I'm afraid to change anything in my tank (especially sump are) since it may change the factors that caused this brood to survive. Would be nice to keep it going, but this is one of those events you take as a blessing and may never see again. I'll just hope for the best...
 
Just found two more live babies in the sump and moved them up to the main tank. That's five total I've found now live, and six empty shells. Really active little buggers, put them on a powerhead in the main tank to keep an eye on them and within a minute they were off and cruising around the tank.
 
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