Bayer question (

[Joche]

Hello RC!

Thanks to the community I learned of Bayer Complete Insect Killer as inexpensive yet effective coral dip. So a while ago I got a bottle to have it ready for future coral purchases but later keep reading/hearing that it had to be the concentrate bottle yet all I could find was the hose attachment spray bottle. I keep trying to read the ingredient list pictured on the products throughout the web and I just can't see a difference, so is the concentration the same?

Ingredient list:
Imidacloprid........0.72%
B-Cyfluthrin.........0.36%
Other Ingredients..98.92%
Total .................100.00%

The bottle contains 0.016 lbs of imidacloprid and is the 32 fl oz bottle.

Is this misinformation?3

Why am I posting this here? I blame you guys for my recent addiction to SPS corals and I have new coming this week from a recent sale

If it gets your attention they are form my outdoor tank and I might not be able to see pests, eggs or their bite marks under sunlight.

 

[crawlerman]

Looks like the same ingredients just different bottle. They are both shown on the bayer site with the same active ingredients.

https://www.bayeradvanced.com/find-a-product/lawn-care/complete-brand-insect-killer-for-soil-turf

 

[Joche]

Looks like the same ingredients just different bottle. They are both shown on the bayer site with the same active ingredients.

https://www.bayeradvanced.com/find-a-product/lawn-care/complete-brand-insect-killer-for-soil-turf

Thanks, that's exactly what I thought. I just couldn't see a difference anywhere when looking at pictures of the products so I kept scratching my head as to why the "concentrated" bottle was emphasized.

 

[crawlerman]

They are both concentrates, one you have to manually dilute, the other regulates it through the nozzle with the hose.

 

[abhishek@1985]

Well I had the same dilemma while buying from Amazon .
Went to Home Depot and they had both the types - with hose attachment and without .
No difference I could find anywhere but to be safer I bought and used the one without hose attachment .
Just blindly followed all the experts...

Regards,
Abhishek

 

[Joche]

They are both concentrates, one you have to manually dilute, the other regulates it through the nozzle with the hose.

Ah, that would explained it, emphasizing one as "concentrate" and not the other had me confused. English is not my first language so I thought I could be misunderstanding something.

Well I had the same dilemma while buying from Amazon .
Went to Home Depot and they had both the types - with hose attachment and without .
No difference I could find anywhere but to be safer I bought and used the one without hose attachment .
Just blindly followed all the experts...

Regards,
Abhishek

That's exactly what happened to me, except my Home Depot only had the hose attachment, the same with all the HomeDepot around me.

 

[Joche]

By the way, does an actual ingredient discussion exist?
All I can find is "Use Bayer it's awesome" or "what dose do you use?".

If the imidacloprid is the one one doing the work, how? and why not buy it as a single ingredient? I've seen it on Amazon for cheap for example.

I don't like following advice blindly, who knows there might be something better, something that will also take care of the eggs of AEFW or nudis.

 

[crawlerman]

The trick is finding something mild enough not to kill corals but harsh enough to kill bugs and eggs. As far as I know nothing like that exists. That's why you have to cut from the plug, that's where the eggs most likely will be. Also why you need to agitate the water to knock them off. They won't die, but will let go of the coral. At least this is what I believe from my research.

 

[Joche]

The trick is finding something mild enough not to kill corals but harsh enough to kill bugs and eggs. As far as I know nothing like that exists. That's why you have to cut from the plug, that's where the eggs most likely will be. Also why you need to agitate the water to knock them off. They won't die, but will let go of the coral. At least this is what I believe from my research.

Let's all hope together that someone can find something that does just that and is brave enough to thoroughly test! There are very clever trailblazers out there and i'ts very frustrating something so small is so prevalent and can cause so much headaches.

Anyways, hopefully this thread will help someone that has the the confusion as I did.