Beananimal siphon issues.

[Ryagon]

Setting up the plumbing for my first install and am having issues with the siphon. The secondary seams to have more flow. If I tweak the main symphony the best I can get is a tiny bit of air bubbles (even waiting several minutes to flush the line) or else the secondary line kicks in and major bubbles out of it and major gurgling. See the attached video, this is in the best position I could get myself. But I am new and don't know what I am doing so am asking for any advise please.

https://vimeo.com/207959736

 

[JUNBUG361]

Adjust 1 of your drains(gate valve) to increase the water level on the overflow. That water level should skim on open drain(emergency)

 

[Ryagon]

I can't get the water into the emergency, even with the gate valve fully closed. Just puts crap tons of bubbles through the secondary.

 

[VGT]

Adjust 1 of your drains(gate valve) to increase the water level on the overflow. That water level should skim on open drain(emergency)

Emergency should be dry on a bean, only herbies have a skim over the emergency.

 

[VGT]

Why do you have holes drilled into the top of the center and right? One should not have a hole, never going to start a siphon if it continually sucks in air.

 

[Legot]

It looks like you have a hole in the top of your main siphon. Try sealing that.

 

[Ryagon]

Ok after playing with the heights of the pipes and tweaking the gate valve I got it good no noise from the flow. I can however hear the water trickling over the weir, is there anything I can do about that?

 

[Ryagon]

Why do you have holes drilled into the top of the center and right? One should not have a hole, never going to start a siphon if it continually sucks in air.

Those u shapes came from the manufacture and are supposed to be installed as is.

 

[miPapareef]

The key to the weir noise is to raise the secondary up so the drop over the weir is less.


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[miPapareef]

I have the secondary almost touching the cover. And the primary only 3/4" from the bottom.

It is silent except for when the waves get going high. I haven't been able to make it silent with standing waves in the take.


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[Zmann]

I have the same synergy overflow. Your main siphon with the valve on it, either seal the hole on the 90 (which is what I did) or raise the backup siphon so your main siphon is totally under water including the open hole.

 

[Civicman86]

How deep is the main line into the sump? I had this exact same problem and it ended up that the line was to deep - it should be an inch or less.

 

[notenoughtanks]

Just checking, is that a test run with fresh or saltwater? I made all my pipes a little shorter than Synergy recommends to have a little more safety space and mine is dead silent without plugging the holes or anything like that. But I am only running 600gph through mine so...

 

[Ryagon]

How deep is the main line into the sump? I had this exact same problem and it ended up that the line was to deep - it should be an inch or less.

It is several inches like maybe 4-5. I'm using a Trigger Systems sapphire 34 sump and it has precut pipes so I used those.


The test is fresh water. What that mess it up?

 

[miPapareef]

My primary and secondary drains are 5" below the water. No issue with that. Also have the sapphire 34.

I didn't hear a difference with fresh or salt water.

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[miPapareef]

Good luck with the build and nice equipment!

In your sump you will have the same water fall noises if any chamber is too different in level. I mover the adjustable weir as high as it could go to stop the water fall noise in the socks. Then raised the level of my ato in the return pump chamber.

Here's a pic of the drop from return chamber to the skimmer/fudge level.

And here's the fuge to return chamber..

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[notenoughtanks]

The test is fresh water. What that mess it up?

Yes. Idk if it's the SG or what but it does.

 

[Ryagon]

Thanks for the replies. I had it going mostly quiet, no gurgling or anything and just a trickle noise over the weir which I thought was an acceptable level. Now that I have the tank moved up against the wall and filled with salt it seams to have gone louder. Not sure what exactly is causing the water noise now.

 

[Elricsfate]

I have the same synergy overflow. Your main siphon with the valve on it, either seal the hole on the 90 (which is what I did) or raise the backup siphon so your main siphon is totally under water including the open hole.

The Synergy comes with instructions. If you cut the PVC to the dimensions called for in the instructions (2 1/2", 3 1/4", and 7") it works perfectly. I have two of these installed on 2 tanks. Both worked from the moment I turned the pump on. All I did was adjust the gate valve on the main until the system was quiet enough for my liking. Been running for several months now, and I have never touched the gate valve, nor had any issues, since day 1. And the hole is not under water...

 

[Ryagon]

The Synergy comes with instructions. If you cut the PVC to the dimensions called for in the instructions (2 1/2", 3 1/4", and 7") it works perfectly. I have two of these installed on 2 tanks. Both worked from the moment I turned the pump on. All I did was adjust the gate valve on the main until the system was quiet enough for my liking. Been running for several months now, and I have never touched the gate valve, nor had any issues, since day 1. And the hole is not under water...

I cut them to the exact dimensions they showed in their how to video. The dimensions you have listed look correct. I almost hate to mess with it more in case I cant get it back to how it was and just make it worse..