Best predator for monti nudis!!!!!!

[colgan10]

I have read all of the info on these disgusting little creatures and have found them everywhere on my monti cap......the piece is huge and encrusted to the live rock so i can't remove it and use a dip, even tho i really looks like there isn't a dip that works. I have seen people suggestions on different types of wrasse, I would really like to here from anyone that has had success removing these from the display tank naturally, thank you so much!

 

[jackson6745]

Throw the rock out with the cap....... seriously

 

[colgan10]

not going to happen i have other sps corals on the rock and the monti is in good health just has thos damn things all over the bottom of it. This cap i have had for 5 years and is the largest piece in my tank and plus if they are it they are more than likely on my other monties

 

[colgan10]

i'll post pictures tomorrow when the lights are back on

 

[jackson6745]

They are relentless. You are going to have to remove this cap some how and scrub it on a periodic basis. I had them for a few months and I ended up fragging small pieces of my montis and re-growing them. Hopefully you have better luck.

 

[steely185]

Weekly hour long baths in Revive killed them off for me. Haven't had them in several months. It will take 3-4 dips before it fully works getting rid of any hatchlings. Run an air stone or something in the bath and periodically baste to dislodge any nudis. It may not be easy though with a large cap.

 

[hankzilla]

A 6 line or the yellow coris wrasse will eat any that didn’t hide when the lights came on as I've found them to be nocturnal in my tank. I'm sure they hide in the rock and maybe the sand during the lighted hours, so fish are not as effective. For the most part the only way I have found to get rid of them is to due weekly dips for several months and really, I ended up just tossing a lot of monti’s if I couldn’t control them on a certain colonies I had a lot. The dips need to happen early in the morning middle of the night before any light hits the tank (sun or room lights). Good luck it took almost a half year for me to get rid of 99% them without using the drain cleaner to dip them in (potassium pergament). I could see the adults fall off using coral revive.

 

[graveyardworm]

Break off as much as you can, remove any other monti's, let them have whats left. Siphon out as many as you can. Then wait 6 month before adding any other monti's. You'll never get all the eggs, and from what I've read birth to roproduction is a very short period of time. They are primarily nocturnal and hide quite well during the day when most fish that might eat them would be active.

Thats what I had to do to rid my tank of them.

 

[colgan10]

So no one out there has found a way to save the montis from doom? There has to be a way to control these little guys.....

 

[hankzilla]

Excellent pic and at that size they have laid patches of eggs somewhere. That’s the problem it’s difficult to kill the eggs outside of very harsh chemicals. Dip dip dip isolate if possible. I didn’t lose my big caps. The nudi’s where concentrating on a particular rock column with monti’s on it. I dipped the corals twice a week tossed some for three or four months skipped a month and started again for another month or so. I haven’t seen any more nudi’s on the monti’s I have left for while and I look almost every night. Don’t give up they haven’t destroyed the cap but you have to keep killing the adults before they lay more eggs.

 

[CleveYank]

The Best Predator is you, armed with coral fragging tools, an exacto knife, magnifying glass and a quarantine tank.

<O</O
Seek out, scrape the eggs, scrape off the offensive lil buggers, and cut the coral off of all rocks and quarantine ALL Montys from the main system. You need to get any and all pieces of monty out of the system and keep it clear of montys for at least 6 months plus. Articles abound (google) that they may remain dormant for up to 6 months and starving them out of the main display is the best approach. After full inspections of the main and quarantine are clear of them? You can be fairly sure they are gone. Then inspect and quarantine every monty you bring in.<O</O

Good Luck.

 

[hatfielj]

Sorry to say it, but there's no getting rid of them as long as there are monti's in your tank, you will have monti nudis. Those are some of the worst coral predators there are! I had them in my old tank and never got rid of them. I know you're attached to your cap, but its better to just rip it off the rocks and toss it in the trash along with any other monti's you have. Then, in a few months you can get yourself some new monti's and all will be happy again.
There's no such thing as a "natural" solution to getting rid of these in our small tanks. They are impossible to get rid of unless you get rid of all your montipora's. Trust me, I spent an entire year trying every suggestion out there from various wrasses, dips, fragging, etc.
I wish there was a better answer, but at this time there's not. Best of luck

 

[graveyardworm]

I moved all of my montis to a seperate frag tank and thought I could deal with them there. Problem is they are so small when they hatch out you cant even see them, but even at that size they can quickly overwhelm a coral. With all the whirling growth in that cap you will never be able to erradicate them.

 

[colgan10]

WOW! I'm starting to become heart broken, I don't even have any idea how they came to be in my tank I haven't noticed them to just recently this sucks

 

[sjfishguy]

I can't speak for monti nudis in particular, but years ago I had a terrible outbreak of zoo nudis. Got a sixline and within weeks my tank was cured and I have not seen one since. I hear they are a 50/50 shot whether they will eat them or not, and it may be more difficult for the fish to get to them with the whirling growth of a cap, but its worth a shot

 

[vegaskid11]

Looks like you have a nice selection of maricultured corals in your tank. I imagine they came from there.

 

[UFreefer]

I'd try a melanarus wrasse too, awesome worker

 

[colgan10]

Will the melanarus wrasse get along with a Leopard Wrasse it is my favorite fish and don't want to upset him

 

[luther1200]

I would at least try a Wrasse. You have nothing to loose.

 

[jd474]

Sorry to say it, but there's no getting rid of them as long as there are monti's in your tank, you will have monti nudis. Those are some of the worst coral predators there are! I had them in my old tank and never got rid of them. I know you're attached to your cap, but its better to just rip it off the rocks and toss it in the trash along with any other monti's you have. Then, in a few months you can get yourself some new monti's and all will be happy again.
There's no such thing as a "natural" solution to getting rid of these in our small tanks. They are impossible to get rid of unless you get rid of all your montipora's. Trust me, I spent an entire year trying every suggestion out there from various wrasses, dips, fragging, etc.
I wish there was a better answer, but at this time there's not. Best of luck

+1. Wait at LEAST 6 months montipora free, or they'll be back, and you'll be in the same position you are in now. If you can, save small frags, revive dip, inspect carefully, and place in a nudi-free environment until your tank is ready. I have dealt with them in 2 separate systems, and tried every method (Revive, Potassium permanganate, natural predation, etc.), and none were 100% effective. Needless to say, quarantine is mandatory now.