Black Percula and Regular Orange Percula?

[Grimreaperz]

So the LFS I deal with has both regular percs and black percs. My question is if I got one of each relatively the same size do you think they would or could ever become a mated pair?

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[CoralsAddiction]

What's a black perc and Orange perc? Are you referring to Onyx true percula and regular true percula? Or black and white Ocellaris (Darwin) and regular Ocellaris? Or a hybrid pair one from each group? Juveniles of same size could be ok but adults are more tricky.

 

[Grimreaperz]

My fish store has them on their stock list (j&laquatics) as Percula Clownfish (TR) and Black Percula Clown Fish (TR) the black perc is selling for about 43 and the Percs are selling for 19 you can see what I am talking about in at this link they have their current stock list in a PDF format at the bottom http://www.jlaquatics.com/new-and-noteworthy/

Yeah I am hoping they are juvies as I know the younger the better. But could it work? Provided I find the right 2 of each type hoping to get them the exact same size or have the black one be a tiny bit bigger off the bat. To make it the dominate/female..

If this did work what would the baby's be called? Thinks it would produce anything cool looking or would they just come out either orange or black? Sorry for all the noob questions!

Thanks in advance for your time and answers!

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[Mo2]

Becareful, make sure you know what you're getting. I clicked the link but didn't see pics. Generally speaking, onyx perculas will have black bodies with orange fins. And Black and white occy will be all back and just white lines.

A few things to consider... Onyx (black) clownfish will always sell better. So if you're ever thinking about raising babies, 2 onyx perculas would be better. However, if you want the pair to just have and bond, get what ever you like.

 

[Dkuhlmann]

Well to sort of answer your question if you have a Black and white occelaris and a regular orange occelaris the babies will be Mocha's I own two mochas from this type of original breeding.

I'm not sure what it would be called from the Percula clowns. Probably Mocha percula?

You really need to make sure of what they are and if you can get pictures of both to post here it would be most helpful

But yes, it's very possible that two different clowns of the same species can and will breed. There are also many of two different breed having offspring, in many cases this is where all of the designer clowns have come from

 

[CoralsAddiction]

Based on that PDF socument it will be black and white Ocellaris (Darwin) and regular Ocellaris clowns. They can pair.

 

[OrionN]

A. percula and A. ocellaris are very closely related and can have have fertile hybrid. Many people call Ocellaris as Perc and Percular as True Perc. That store's list seem to have a lot of errors in it. Their scientific names do not seem to be accurate either. For example they listed Snowflakes as A. percula. Snowflakes, if they are accurate, is a variety of A. ocellaris. I would not trust the names as they are given.
Regardless, even if you end up with an A. percula and an A. ocellaris, they can still pair up.
For this store, it is best to see what fish you are going to get and choose from there. If getting a Percula or Ocellaris is not important to you then it does not matter.

 

[Grimreaperz]

Thanks guys I will definitely try and get pics before I go there they are about a 1hr drive so wanted to do my research before committing. I would prefer the Orange to be a True percula. As if I'm not mistaken don't they have the black borders around there bars? And the ocellaris do not? As far as the black I don't mind if it's perc or oce thank for clearing things up for me on the likely hood or either 2 different types of percs or a perc and an oce mating! I do want to just try my luck at breading don't want to go through 300 on fish I've never kept before and try my luck would rather start cheap and if I succeed use my earnings to buy more!!!

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[OrionN]

Mix orange and black come out as a ugly brown color. I would get two A Percula if possible

 

[CoralsAddiction]

You should consider getting a pair of wild caught Ocellaris clowns from Blue Zoo. Even if you have to pay shipping it's still reasonably priced.
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productDetail.asp?did=1&pid=731&cid=14
Also, they have a nice true percula clown with a lot of black in their WYSIWYG section:
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productdetailcc.asp?did=11&cid=365&pid=25091%>

 

[Grimreaperz]

You should consider getting a pair of wild caught Ocellaris clowns from Blue Zoo. Even if you have to pay shipping it's still reasonably priced.
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productDetail.asp?did=1&pid=731&cid=14
Also, they have a nice true percula clown with a lot of black in their WYSIWYG section:
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productdetailcc.asp?did=11&cid=365&pid=25091%>

Nah I live in Canada so this definitely is more then I would pay from a local store. I'm still researching and doing my due diligence and I prefer to buy captive bread if possible. But definitely want True Percula. Am not 100% on the black ocellaris yet though.

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[OrionN]

Tank raise clowns are good, but lately there are so many bad clowns out there. It is important to me to have clowns that is reasonably free of defects (shape of the clowns). TR fish through dealers are just not up to par. There are so many bad breeders out there that just mill them out for very cheap prices of a few dollars per clownfish. This realy cause hardship for good breeders. There is no way a good breeder can compete with this, thus cannot move the clowns that they raise (my problem) The only way we can get good TR clowns is to get them directly from the breeder and pay a reasonable price for them.
When I raised clowns, it took me 3 years to get rid of the intitial patch I raised. I have to delivers my clowns to Houston, San Antonio and Austin (3-5 hrs away) and sell them at about 4 dollars each. The last 50 I sold it to a local reefer, fish and all the equibments for $500.00. I just got tired of trying to sell them and maintain the fish.