Black Ribbon Eel

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this is kind of long so skip to the second last paragraph to see the questions or picture if youd rather.

i stumbled across one of these at one of the nearby fish store. ive been looking for one for over a year and know how bad a rep they have and decided id give it a try. ive read about someone who had one and it refused to eat and after a month he force fed it and after it got over the shock of it it started eating regularly so i thought i might have a decent chance.

i saw it by chance and knew that with the hours and hours of research id done it would have a much better chance at survival with me than someone who picked it up at random. and the fact that they are local to here meant that unlike most other people id be willing to release it if i got into too much trouble. so i picked it up and brought it home and acclimatised it over around 2 hours.

it seemed pretty bold and was doing laps trying to find any weakness in my security to escape out of. so i thought i might as well try feeding it. ive got some large tweezers i use to feed my seahorses so i pulled out some frozen shrimp and held it out. it didnt seem to care much but after a minute or two it snapped at the steel part near the food. ive heard they are very peaceful and almost blind so i decided that it wasnt an act of aggression and it might have just missed the food because it couldnt see it well. once it settled down i dropped a large piece (too large i realized once i saw its size in relation to the eel) and to my shock the eel took it. it spent about a minute and a half chewing at it before it was finally able to swallow it.

i was very pleased an decided to let it settle for the night before trying anything else with it. the next night i thought id give it another go, it had eaten a huge chunk the night before but i haven't read much on what quantities they like to eat and how frequently. most of it is people abusing anyone who bought one and telling them how it definitely without a doubt will never eat in an aquarium no matter the conditions.

so i dropped a piece in, much smaller this time and it took it without hesitation. so i tried with a bit more and it took that too. so then i gave it another decent sized piece and after a few seconds it took that. i decided that was probably enough because as far as i knew it would eat itself to death.

so its been a few days since then and its still fearless and still takes frozen shrimp like a madman. im getting some mollys in few days to give it some excitement.

so while this eel seems hellbent on destroying everything i put in front of it i wanted to ask a few questions. first how big a tank should i have it it. its currently about 18 inches long in a 3 foot tank. i think its 50-55 gal which i know isnt enough for an adult. ive read about 65 is good but ive got a 180 that i plan on transferring it too once ive made sure its properly secured, but im not sure if it would be stressed in a 3 foot tank right now or not. its eating well (too well almost) and sleeps either in a pvc pipe, a pirate ship or a huge live rock. it does laps every now and then to check stuff out and i have a couple of seahorses in with it that are much much too large to be prey. they actually seem to really enjoy its company but im not sure it does anything more than tolerates them.

my other question is exactly how much should i feed it? i was thinking of either letting it stuff itself every 2-3 days or giving it a smaller amount every night to keep it lean and mean. does anyone know what a recommended amount is in relation to its size?

ill attach a picture i took with my phone of it with one of the seahorses that seems to be in love with it. they were acting almost like a mated pair for a while but seem to have gotten used to each other. the tank itself was used as a feeder tank for my octopus so it doesnt look very nice at the moment but you get the idea.
 

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I used to feed mine 2-3 times a week. I would give him just one silverside but man he swallowed some big silversides. They were around 3-4 inches long.

Since they are finicky eaters, I would want mine to get a little hungry before I fed it again.
 
I purchased a blue specimen about 8months ago. From day1, he took live and frozen food. Now, I buy frozen squid at the bait shop and chop it in to 1" chunks and my ribbon and zebra moray gobble it up. My ribbon has maybe increased 40% in girth and definitely grown in length. I love my eels. The original reason I bought the zebra was I found a molted claw from a stone crab and shortly thereafter, my zebra cleaned house.
 
Are seahorses and ribbon eels really appropriate tank mates?

My only comment would be the idea that your purchasing it from the store somehow "saved" it. Unfortunately the reality is that by purchasing it you have added to the margin of the store and encouraged them to possibly procure more of these eels to sell. The other thing you mentioned is "releasing" the eel back to the wild. There is a risk inherent with releasing fish that are from our tanks. You do not know what kind of disease or pathogen may be in the tank. I hate to say it but it's best if you find that you cannot care for a fish, to find someone else who can. Not saying I know more or am trying to be smug, just saying this completely eliminates any risk of releasing something "wrong" for our local environment.

Whlie I am glad your ribbon appears to be eating, there are many stories (and a sticky) about avoiding the fish. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Would be great if you could document diet/appetite etc.
 
thanks for the replies.

phil519, i know what your saying about adding to the amount of these that get sold, i suppose i was too excited to think about it at the time and i know id done the research. as far as my tank about the only thing ive had it it is a very large wild caught octopus, all the live rock is local too so i dont have anything to worry about releasing it if i have to (which isnt an issue now). i always appreciate constructive criticism though and you brought up a few things i hadnt thought of.

im not too sure if they are compatible with seahorses, i was hoping someone might comment. its only a short term thing until i make sure my larger tank is safe for him. either of them have the capacity to hurt each other as far as i know and all of them are eating and behaving normally so i dont think i have anything to worry about.

ill be getting some live mollys for it on friday so it has something to hunt but ill keep the diet varied with invert and true marine fish. im glad someone mentioned squid too, i hadnt even considered that.
 
If it eats frozen I wouldn't feed it live food unless you can get live shrimp or baitfish locally.

The other problem with these guys is they are almost impossible to keep in a tank.
 
I think a 3' long tank is probably fine for the time being. We have two in a 30" cube that have spawned twice, the ones that were documented on RB. Ours eat mostly fish flesh, not crustacean/shellfish.
 
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