Black T Max suddenly looking funky, what do you guys think is going on?
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a lot of people are successful with the bacterial methods. they can be very efficient at reducing excess nutrients, some times too good. but the biggest potential problem with them IMO is that we have all types of bacteria in our tanks, some good some bad. these methods can be indiscrimanate on what strains of bacteria are driven, meaning they can be just as likely to drive the bad bacteria as the good.
i do think that methods like Zeo are a lot safer then just carbon (vodka/sugar) dosing because with Zeo your perodically adding the good bacteria, with carbon your just playing with whats already in your tank
Okay...so I came home to find the clam looking about the same, maybe some slight gaping. It reacted well when I ran my hand over to create a shadow. I dipped in fresh water for 12 minutes. It closed up and I could see it expelling water every now and again. I put it back in its spot and it slowly opened some, major gaping at this point and no reaction whatsoever to me creating a shadow over it. I sure hope I didn't kill it. What shoudl I be watching for at this point providing I didn't kill it??
Unarce
Unshackled
Oh no, Alicia! Just came across this thread!
I tried looking up what's in ZeoStart2 on the KZ website, but there's no ingredient list. See if it might have iron in it or something, which can fuel PM. During the time I had it, I was using Seachem Reef Salt, so that may not be an issue. However, I wonder if some other affliction stressed it out first (hence, the bleaching), making it more susceptible to the PM protozoan in its weakened state.
You haven't changed you're lights, either, right?
I tried looking up what's in ZeoStart2 on the KZ website, but there's no ingredient list. See if it might have iron in it or something, which can fuel PM. During the time I had it, I was using Seachem Reef Salt, so that may not be an issue. However, I wonder if some other affliction stressed it out first (hence, the bleaching), making it more susceptible to the PM protozoan in its weakened state.
You haven't changed you're lights, either, right?
Well, I think I killed it with the fresh water dip. The params were good, PH and temp. It seemed to be opening more last night and reacting to shadows but this morning I found my shrimp on the clam messing with it and the clam is partially open with its mantle all sucked in. It does not look good. I have had the worst luck with clams in the past 3 years. Not one has lasted longer than a year. As a matter of fact, the three I have had all lasted about a year, looked great, and suddenly took a dive just like this one over the course of a few weeks. One clam I tried to save by moving it to my other tank...it looked a lot better for about 3 days and then died in one day while I was at work. Frustrating. This guy was gorgeous all along until a few weeks ago.
ezcompany
Premium Member
i'm sorry for your loss.
people don't say this much but, after a FW dip, you MUST cover the clam to prevent all your other animals from attacking it at its weakened state. you will find hermits, nass snails, shrimp, etc. all attack the clam in its weakened state. i've had a sixline tear my b/w to pieces right before my eyes, luckily i saw him do it before it was too late.
it also COULD have been your cleaner shrimp (skunk cleaners have been known to pester clams to death) that may be the cause of death.
people don't say this much but, after a FW dip, you MUST cover the clam to prevent all your other animals from attacking it at its weakened state. you will find hermits, nass snails, shrimp, etc. all attack the clam in its weakened state. i've had a sixline tear my b/w to pieces right before my eyes, luckily i saw him do it before it was too late.
it also COULD have been your cleaner shrimp (skunk cleaners have been known to pester clams to death) that may be the cause of death.
Oh bummer...wish I would have known that. I kept shooing my peppermint away but I would come back to find him perched on the clam. It definately could have been at him all night. What a shame . Lesson learned but one gorgeous clam dead. I am still in a quandry as to what could have been wrong with this clam a few weeks back to start this downward spiral after a year of beautiful, healthy, growth. Very perplexing and frustrating. I set this tank up to be a fileld with some clams so you can look down on them but I have not had very good luck. This is the third to die in the same way in the past 3 years. I am not sure getting any more clams at this time is the best thing to do.
. Lesson learned but one gorgeous clam dead. I am still in a quandry as to what could have been wrong with this clam a few weeks back to start this downward spiral after a year of beautiful, healthy, growth. Very perplexing and frustrating. I set this tank up to be a fileld with some clams so you can look down on them but I have not had very good luck. This is the third to die in the same way in the past 3 years. I am not sure getting any more clams at this time is the best thing to do.slojmn
IME, after doing FWD on several clams of customer that bring them into the store, maxima do not tolerate FWD as well as the other Tridcanids. We have found that they have a 50/50 chance of surviving the dip, where T. croceas have a 95% chance of surviving.
Sorry for your loss!
IME, after doing FWD on several clams of customer that bring them into the store, maxima do not tolerate FWD as well as the other Tridcanids. We have found that they have a 50/50 chance of surviving the dip, where T. croceas have a 95% chance of surviving.
Sorry for your loss!
