Blue Agaves

[engineeronh2o]

Absolutely one of the best coral on the market. I how a few of these myself and they just maybe the best zoa/paly I have owned. I got mine locally from a guy the has good success growing these out.

I see them being sold on Ebay by Reef Pets and others, and OMG! Reef Pets is getting mucho for these puppies. Is it the pic and the deception that they are buying WYSIWYG, or are they really going $59 a polyp. Recently he has also sold a single polyp for $80+, and $60+ a couple of times.

Ebay links removed

Just a couple examples above. He has sold at least 7-8 single polyps and never below $50 a piece? There is only 6 polyps on the frag plug. Everytime he says you are getting a polyp pictured? How is that? I vote crooked... Put a WYSIWYG picture up and quit lying!

 

[falat]

I'm from the uk and recently purchased some blue agaves from someone in the us very pleased with them got to be the best zoa/paly in my tank

 

[NOVAcane]

A friend of mine just bought one on ebay for 80 and said he thought he was buying 6 polyps. I bet he was the 80+ guy you are referring to. However, the one Polyp he got was beautiful - big, bright, colorful, and full....not worth 80 though.

 

[engineeronh2o]

Well, reef pets sell quality zoas. However, the last 2-3 months he has 6-8 different zoas and palys that he sells using the same picture and he makes it seem like you are getting a mini colony but the writing clearly says one polyp from the picture above. This is a successful tatic but kinda shady after a while. No one can leave a negative b/c technically he is selling what exactly he says. But, if you have a picture with 6 polyps and use it to sell 8-10 individual polyps, and you always get a polyp from above, that is not real information.

More examples on different coral:


And once again he uses the same picture to sell another one polyp from the photo above...


How high will it go this time?

 

[Borchers]

Not to rain on any parades but it does say One Polyp... Now don't get me wrong but its silly to think that he can sell 100 polyps from the same plug he is showing but hes doing what all Ebay power sellers do. One photo for 1,000 listings.

 

[A. Grandis]

I think the fact that we are talking about "one polyp sale" is as important, or even more, than the picture/truth issue.
It is still hard for me to understand how people can sell/buy ONE polyp.
Most of the time that I have a solitary polyp it takes forever to grow, if it doesn't die for some reason.

The practice is everywhere, but I still struggle with that!

Hope I can get the deal one day.

Beautiful zoas, by the way!!!!

Grandis.

 

[A. Grandis]

Sorry, double post.

 

[ek9vboi]

Blue Agaves are very beautiful, I have one as well. Waiting for it to fully acclimate so it can start growing I can't wait for them to grow out, they are one of my prized zoas after my ATL VDMs.

 

[engineeronh2o]

Exactly Grandis, most the time the polyp from the vendor is seperated from the colony and rock and simply glued on to a plug. Then shipped and if it is still attached to the plug when we receive it, it sits in your tanks for a few days and then boom its gone. I say a single polyp frag is 50/50 on survival rate.

 

[A. Grandis]

Exactly Grandis, most the time the polyp from the vendor is seperated from the colony and rock and simply glued on to a plug. Then shipped and if it is still attached to the plug when we receive it, it sits in your tanks for a few days and then boom its gone. I say a single polyp frag is 50/50 on survival rate.

Hi engineeronh2o:
I would say it's a 20% chance of survival in the long run, and a very long period of time to become a colony, if so.
I think every small healthy colony of zoas in the market can be considerated as a 50/50% on survival already due to the possibilities of shipping damage, adaptation, predation, infections and accidents.
Now, one polyps!?!? It's a joke, sorry.

I've heard before about the vendors cutting the wild colonies and glueing single polyps to the plugs here in this forum. I couldn't believe that! If they don't allow the polyps to overcome the stress of the cutting itself (and many don't, by what people post here! One can proof with the band new white plugs too, no algae!!!) there is an even more slim chance for survival in the long run for that polyp!!

I have to say double good luck to you guys that buy a solitary polyp.
I'm sorry, but that is big time easy money market.
Again, people should sell frags of 5 to 10 polyps minimum IMO.

Well, I'll post the dead horse on this issue hoping the newbies to see that what I wrote is nothing new, but ignored.
:deadhorse:

Grandis.

 

[Nanook]

Ebay links removed and pricing threads aren't allowed.

 

[A. Grandis]

Ebay links removed and pricing threads aren't allowed.

Hope they all can at least understand my part on the thread in regards to the single polyp issue. :thumbsup:

Grandis.

 

[Friday Night]

I didn't understand the OP first post was there a question? Lol

O it's a price gouging thread never mind ..........

:deadhorse:
:deadhorse:

 

[8-ball]

I think there is confusion when it comes to getting these "1 polyp frags". the chance for survival is much greater when it is a dremel cut compared to an under the mat and around cut. I have had some issues with the latter but never any issues raising the dremel cuts from a single poylp.

But it depends the on the quality of the zoa you want, it is really hard to get a cheap mini colony of "high-end" zoas, but if you risk the single poylp then you can really get some nice mini colonies of your own. Its no different then a "frag of sps" in terms of growth. I have 30+ heads of CARS,Woodstocks, Fl oranges, sp monsters, Raptors rainbows that all started from single heads and their are only 7 months along.

 

[jjmcat]

I want to see what these look like.Lets see a picture of a non photo shopped colony.

 

[johnny]

Here's my growout frag at the top, not a great pic, but what I have on hand...