Blue Millie in Distress

Lonnie,
Well, if it's any consolation, I just recently lost a few SPS corals myself.

It's temperature for me. I haven't done anything differently in my tank recently, but then I found out that my wife did turn off the oil burner. I've been getting a large temp swings and I was wondering why. :confused:

I've seemed to have stabilized it so far, but I lost a couple of torts, a stag and your Seriatapora.:(
 
I wonder... with the change of season, the oil burner is off.... And, as you remember, my sump, refugium, and frag tank are all in the furnace room.

I haven't noticed any change in the temperature reading on the chiller though to be honest.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9931151#post9931151 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnfallon
you can dip in fluke tabs or tropic marine coral cure or even lugols.

everybody seems to have these flatworms, and most waited to test until half our stuff was dead.
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Sorry... didn't mean to ignore your suggestion... to do the dip I'm gathering that I need to get them out of the tank. They're very well encrusted. Do I break them off and then re-glue them?
 
I truely doubt it's any predator, but it's still a good suggestion.;)

It's so common for us entrenched reefers to forget to clean our probes, heaters and chillers when the seasons change.:rolleyes:
Or to forget to close a window or door sooner then later.

We had a birthday party on Saturday, there were 50 people in my house/yard all the windows/doors were open and it got chilly that night.

The Seriatopora went in half a day. I was pretty annoyed about the whole thing at first, but it happens.

It must have dropped almost 10 degrees in the tank because I'm even gettin Cyano in the tank now. A lot of little critters must have bit the detritus Sunday.

I can still come to your house if you want Lonster, just give me a call and we'll set something up.
 
yes, you cannot dip in tank.

Bill, I'm not sure why you'd say it doesnt sound like predators, it sounds a lot like what I experienced (and JBNY, and Kedd, and Melev, and ClkWrk, and Servo, and Travis, ...)

It may be alk swings, or temp, or allelopathy, or..., but those are no more likely, imo.
 
Christine,
I'm not sure. To be honest with you, I don't think even your fiance could answer that question with absolute certainty, but I'll give you my thoughts...

It is possible that high temps (temp fluctuations) could be causing the animal to bleach and possibly recede. The base is the closest point to which a coral anchors to rock. It is also the closest point to which pods, worms or any omnivore could climb up.
It's a common sense logic, but I could be wrong?

fallon,
Maybe you're right, but I am/was under the impression that Lonnie has not added any new corals or rock to the tank for quite some time now.

So go run along and ask JBNY, and Kedd, and Melev, and ClkWrk, and Servo, and Travis if predators can get into your tank via osmosis, magic, or you wishing really hard that it could happen.

BTW, I am just effing with you. Seriously, what I first said might be the truth.;)

PS No offense JBNY, I have nothing for respect for you bro.;)
 
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Suit yourself.

I hadnt added anything in a year. Apparently it can take quite while for them to multiply to the point where they destroy everything.
 
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Seriously fallon, think about it. It would be nice to blame some unkown malady for why this is happening, it would wrap eveything up in a nice neat little package so we could understand it better. I'm not even 100% sure that temperature is the reason, but it makes a little more sense then mysterious predators. I'd be more willing to accept alk swings.

There is a 18 page thread on zoanthids with a malady that only seems to strike when the temperature changes. I know zoanthids are a lot different from SPS, but they still come from the same seas as SPS. So it's not far fetched to hypothesis that this is in fact a problem arising from normal temperature swings.

Listen rather then be dismissive, how about some serious talk about what we can do to remove the predator theory from the equasion?

How about giving us a description of what these mysterious predators look like? Maybe a picture?

Red bugs?

Here is the link to the zoa affliction that coincides with temperature changes. It's a great read. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=691978
 
Thanks Bill! You know, I didn't mean any offense--I honestly didn't know the mechanism and was trying to figure it out, and you know more than I do.

Lonnie and whomever else wants: I just got a new Canon XTI that I'm going to hook up to a dissecting microscope, so if there is something I can look at under magnification, I'd be glad to. The best is probably tissue at teh interface between good and bleached. No guarantees that I'll see anything, but I'll give it a whirl and take some photos. My lab is at Stony Brook.
 
No offense taken.:)
The written word can be so cold sometimes Christine
I'm sure if anyone could come closer to figuring this out, Anthony would.

Dude, I love the XTI, I want it! Did you get the macro lens for it?
I need to come up with $899 to buy me one!:rolleyes: I'll gladly borrow it anytime.;)
 
I'm not being dismissive, merely strongly suggesting a dip to screen for flatworms, considering the symptoms, the fact that a large percentage of local tanks have them and the potential for total tank loss if not caught/managed.

This isnt some esoteric disease, many of the premier tanks in the hobby are being affected and losing their entire tank. I argued for why I couldnt possibly have them, until I tested, and sure enough...

Here's a thread.
http://www.melevsreef.com/aefw.html

Here's another
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=858834

Here's another
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=899108

One more
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum...5830-how-do-you-know-your-tank-aefw-free.html
 
My god that is incredible!
OK, so now you have my attention.
Who knew teletubbies could do that! :lol:

It's so funny, I never get paranoid about parasites until I actually see a picture, thans fallon!:furious:

My question is why it would take a year before you noticed them?
That's not right, you had to have added one coral in that time that would have brought them in the tank. Parasites do not normally live without a host for longer then 3 months, no?

Thanks man.;)
 
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