brown stuff

abrahamcho

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On my tank there are brwn things on my sand and on the glass and the wall of my nano. i have one big snail and i had hermits to clean it up but my mantis ate them all. so does anyone know how to clean this up? it is just like brown stuff everywhere.
 
How big where your hermits? I have been keeping three in the tank for my clean up crew and they are all bigger or as big as the mantis. He won't go for them cuz of their size.
As for the brown stuff, its just algae bloom. It will go away. It means your tank is cycling.
 
Welcome to mantis keeping :) Check your nutrient levels, especially nitrates and phosphates. Consider increasing your water change frequency, as well as adding PhosBan/RowaPhos/PhosGuard (I use the latter without incident) or an inline refugium to increase nutrient export.

A larger hermit/snail with a smaller mantis will probably be OK.
 
the thing is i have a peacock mantis and it kills all the hermits,but some of the hermits are busy picking at the top LR and the peacock does go to the top, but the sand cleaners often meet their makers in a day or two. where do you find these big hermits? i have big snails and he doesnt bother them, but my LFS doesnt sell big hermits just small ones. how much is phosban rowaphos and phoguard usally? thanks for everything!
 
I use PhosGuard (I get 4L at a time from http://www.fostersmith.com -- it's like $36 and will last a long time). I add it to a media bag in my hang-on-tank filter (AquaClear) along with PolyFilter. Make sure you rinse it *well* before adding to the tank. My corals and mantis have had no ill effects from this product. I change the media weekly, when I do water changes.

I agree with the magnetic cleaners. Make sure you get one that is compatible with the tank material.

Dan
 
Re: brown stuff

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10722728#post10722728 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by abrahamcho
On my tank there are brwn things on my sand and on the glass and the wall of my nano. i have one big snail and i had hermits to clean it up but my mantis ate them all. so does anyone know how to clean this up? it is just like brown stuff everywhere.

Sounds like brown diatom algae. It feeds off phosphates and silicates in your water. I would suggest cutting down your feeding and light on top of all the other suggestions. Also, if you're using tap water to mix saltwater with, THAT is a good source for unwanted nutrients, which fuel the diatom flare...

What is your lighting like? Also, is the tank fully "cycled"?

Try to maybe feed once or twice a week, and cut your lighting down to around 5-7 hours a day. There's no real reason to keep a clean-up crew in there if there's nothing to clean up. Amphipods,copepods, and your bristleworms should take care of any detritus in the tank. Some chaeto or caulerpa would help also.

Here's a few choice blurbs from the Wikipedia entry for Diatom :

"Diatoms (Greek: äéÜ (dia) = "through" + ôÝìíåéí (temnein) = "to cut", i.e., "cut in half") are a major group of eukaryotic algae, and are one of the most common types of phytoplankton. Most diatoms are unicellular, although some form chains or simple colonies. A characteristic feature of diatom cells is that they are encased within a unique cell wall made of silica (hydrated silicon dioxide) called a frustule."

"In the open ocean, the condition that typically causes diatom (spring) blooms to end is a lack of silicon. Unlike other nutrients, this is only a major requirement of diatoms so it is not regenerated in the plankton ecosystem as efficiently as, for instance, nitrogen or phosphorus nutrients. This can be seen in maps of surface nutrient concentrations - as nutrients decline along gradients, silicon is usually the first to be exhausted (followed normally by nitrogen then phosphorus)."
 
I'm pretty sure diatoms aren't photosynthetic, so cutting the light won't help....I think. Can anyone verify or disprove that please?

Dan
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10743601#post10743601 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pea-brain
I'm pretty sure diatoms aren't photosynthetic, so cutting the light won't help....I think. Can anyone verify or disprove that please?

Dan

Did you try following the link I provided?
 
thanks everyone i know why i added this one med from drsfoster and smith and it disapeared it was algae indeed. still any comments are good.
 
I would not add any chemicals to battle this algae. It is just diatoms and it will eventually settle down. Allow the copepods and amphipods to develop to consume them. Your mantis will ignore them and they will consume unwanted algae.
 
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