BTA in a 7day cycle?

[ThisCityIsDead]

okay, so i am only on day 7 of cycling my water. a week from today i only had my sand, water, and filter. today, i have live rock, cured rock, lighting, and a heater.
i have around 75lbs of live rock in my 75G.

okay, so on saturday i went over to the local fish store to buy the last few pounds of live rock. i decided to go with several cured rocks, and one fiji cured rock. one of the cured rocks came with a feather duster which looked cool to me, and the owner said it would help the tank cycle quicker. he would have normally charged an 18 dollars more for the worm, but because this one had engraved itself into the rock, he said it came with it.

when i got home, i was placing the rocks and noticed something slimy. then after a few minutes, i noticed i had an anemone. i talked to the guy and he asked me how far i was in with the cycle. i told him. he said it should be fine and had me keep it. for the past 3 days, the anemone has been moving around the same area. it will hang upside down, then go back to a cavelike area in the rock. sometimes it comes out of the cave and its tentacles are reaching out for the light. sometimes it sucks itself in with only the tips of the tentacles out. it sort of looks like a cauliflower? will this thing survive the tank?

by the way, what are these mushroom looking things?

tank

 

[intyme]

I see you have aptasisa, they are the tiny anenome. Get rid of them fast. Possbibly pull your rock out and burn them off. Idk if your feather duster will make it. It may

 

[kenman345]

I see you have aptasisa, they are the tiny anenome. Get rid of them fast. Possbibly pull your rock out and burn them off. Idk if your feather duster will make it. It may

I found one aptasia in my tank and thought i got rid of it by pulling the rock it was n carefully. I believe that it is all gone but have since bought 3 peppermint shrimp (I think one got lost somewhere though) as a precaution and because my GF liked them in the store. I think I have some in my canister filter and while I clean it out every two weeks thoroughly, I always find them in there the next cleaning.

Any recommendations? I haven't found any aptasia in my display since that first one, and the peppermint shrimp are fun to have around. Should I be worried?

 

[thegrun]

As far as aiptasia goes I can see four in the first picture alone. Peppermint Shrimp can be hit or miss in aiptasia control, hopefully yours will do the job. I'm not sure if the feather duster will survive the cycle, but the anemone almost certainly will die. It is very bleached out already, and anemones require pristine water conditions and strong lighting.

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

As far as aiptasia goes I can see four in the first picture alone. Peppermint Shrimp can be hit or miss in aiptasia control, hopefully yours will do the job. I'm not sure if the feather duster will survive the cycle, but the anemone almost certainly will die. It is very bleached out already, and anemones require pristine water conditions and strong lighting.

which ones are the aiptasia? is that the flat rubbery looking thing or is it the one that looks like a long tube with tentacles?

 

[kenman345]

Well, every time I clean, when I turn the filter on again, i see one or two aptasia come out of the lines, and then they are gone within a few hours. I feel they must be eating them. I am planning on doing a full cleaning and replacing the lines in a month or two and hopefully that will get it gone. I havent been too worried right now

 

[shesacharmer]

You should not have an anemone, or shrimp in your tank during cycle. The anemone is very bleached. It should not be added to a tank for at least 9 months to a year. You are getting bad advice at your LFS. You need to deal with the aiptasia now before you get too much further. Pulling them out manually will only cause them to increase in number. Hopefully your shrimp will survive but the fate of the anemone is very doubtful.

 

[kenman345]

You should not have an anemone, or shrimp in your tank during cycle. The anemone is very bleached. It should not be added to a tank for at least 9 months to a year. You are getting bad advice at your LFS. You need to deal with the aiptasia now before you get too much further. Pulling them out manually will only cause them to increase in number. Hopefully your shrimp will survive but the fate of the anemone is very doubtful.

I think you are confusing me with the OP. I have a tank running for about 5 months now, havent ventured out for an anemone, just a FOWLR and fully cycled with a few fish in it for now.

The peppermint shrimp have kept my display fine for now. I am planning to slowly remove the various bacteria homes in the canister filter I have until the Dry Rock I started with is able to handle the bacterial needs for the tank. I will then likely replace the lines for the canister filter and the filter itself (or thoroughly clean the heck out of them) to get rid of any aptasia from the backend of the system. The Peppermint shrimp should keep things fine in the Display until they are all gone.

Is that an okay idea? Again, I havent noticed any aptasia settling at all for 3 months now, so I have not figured it was a big issue that I cannot attempt that this in slow steps so as to remove any possible location it can survive in while maintaining the habitat of the tank

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

You should not have an anemone, or shrimp in your tank during cycle. The anemone is very bleached. It should not be added to a tank for at least 9 months to a year. You are getting bad advice at your LFS. You need to deal with the aiptasia now before you get too much further. Pulling them out manually will only cause them to increase in number. Hopefully your shrimp will survive but the fate of the anemone is very doubtful.

oh, no. i did not add a living shrimp. i fed the anemone a tiny piece of shrimp. so, should i take the anemone out before it dies and harms the tank? by the way, is it harming the tank with it being in there right now?

as for the aptasia, how should i get rid of them. i have a fiji cured rock, it is dark purple with green and dark blue colors. this rock is probably the only cured rock that does not have any aptasia. the other cured rocks have several, and there are some growing on the live rock. most of them are on the cured rocks. i thought pulling them out would kill them completely...:hmm3:

 

[KAMIKAZE0214]

oh, no. i did not add a living shrimp. i fed the anemone a tiny piece of shrimp. so, should i take the anemone out before it dies and harms the tank? by the way, is it harming the tank with it being in there right now?

as for the aptasia, how should i get rid of them. i have a fiji cured rock, it is dark purple with green and dark blue colors. this rock is probably the only cured rock that does not have any aptasia. the other cured rocks have several, and there are some growing on the live rock. most of them are on the cured rocks. i thought pulling them out would kill them completely...:hmm3:

It's very hard to pull them out- keep an eye on your ammonia and the BTA. The BTA isn't harming the tank (other than producing a lot of waste), and if you have cured rock the bacteria should be able to keep up with it. I'd keep a close on the BTA as someone mentioned you normally want to wait 6-9 months before you get one so your tank is more established. If you see it wilted for more than a day or so I would set it in a 5gal bucket with some water from your tank to see if it re-inflates. If it doesn't than it is probably dying =/

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

It's very hard to pull them out- keep an eye on your ammonia and the BTA. The BTA isn't harming the tank (other than producing a lot of waste), and if you have cured rock the bacteria should be able to keep up with it. I'd keep a close on the BTA as someone mentioned you normally want to wait 6-9 months before you get one so your tank is more established. If you see it wilted for more than a day or so I would set it in a 5gal bucket with some water from your tank to see if it re-inflates. If it doesn't than it is probably dying =/

uhm, well, yesterday i read that it was bleached. as soon as i read on how to care for it, i quickly grabbed a frozen shrimp that us people eat... it was just one of those boiled shrimp you get from costco or whatever. i gave it the tiniest piece and it took it. about an hour later, the tentacles were bigger and were more out in the open. it seemed like it wanted to get some light and was reaching to get out of the rock hole. when i turned the lights off to go to bed, i noticed its tentacles went back inside and it looked like a pregnant lady's belly.

it occasionally inflates its upper body as if it's trying to reach out to get to the other side of the rock. the foot looks thin because of its upper body being inflated.

 

[wooden_reefer]

"okay, so i am only on day 7 of cycling my water."

I don't mean to be rigid.

It is a good idea to not think of cycling water in this sense.

What does one cycle?

Exact is cycling the medium where the good bacteria will live.

Nearly all, but not all, the bacteria are on the medium and cannot be removed. So when one transfers the cycled medium one also transfers the result (product) of cycling.

Does one cycle a tank? The idea of cycling a tank is useful, for a show reef tank.

In cycling for a QT or a FO tank, it is more useful to think of cycling the medium intended to maintain fish. Here, one can toss away the water during cycling.

 

[Silvergryphon]

What kind of lighting do you have on the tank? While your BTA is badly bleached, they are pretty durable. I recommend daily ammonia checks combined with 5-10% Bi-weekly water changes for now. It might pull through. Another option would be to find another local reefer that can hold it for you for now until your tank is completely ready for it.

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

What kind of lighting do you have on the tank? While your BTA is badly bleached, they are pretty durable. I recommend daily ammonia checks combined with 5-10% Bi-weekly water changes for now. It might pull through. Another option would be to find another local reefer that can hold it for you for now until your tank is completely ready for it.

i am using the coralife 5t quad. would i replace the 10% of water with regular water, or water with salt

 

[shesacharmer]

Please feed your anemone RAW seafood, not cooked. You can use tiny bits of clam, squid, fish, shrimp, oyster, Mysis or what have you but it should be raw. Since it isn't in ideal surroundings and is bleached then don't overdo it with food. Give it a small piece about the size of a pea or less every three days.

 

[shesacharmer]

Water changes should be done with salt water. Only top off your tank with fresh RO/DI or distilled water to offset evaporation and keep salinity constant.

 

[shesacharmer]

To kill the aiptasia in my tank I injected them with lemon juice and they died right away. If you can remove the rock in question you can burn them off with a lighter. Just clean away any residue afterwards. Aiptasia can regenerate from a single cell left behind which is why plucking them is such a bad idea.

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

To kill the aiptasia in my tank I injected them with lemon juice and they died right away. If you can remove the rock in question you can burn them off with a lighter. Just clean away any residue afterwards. Aiptasia can regenerate from a single cell left behind which is why plucking them is such a bad idea.

oh wow! thank you so much!!! definantly going to purchase some lime juice and a something to inject it to them. will the acid in the juice mess with the tank though?

 

[ThisCityIsDead]

i just burnt the darn things off. how long must the flame be on them.. i just waited until the darn thing melted. i wiped the remaining crap off. does it matter if i miss some of the gooey thing?

thanks guys!

 

[acabgd]

Do you check for evaporation? Do you add water for the evaporated amount? Did you ever test your tank for ammonia? Do you have any test kits? What is your salinity?