Callianassa ghost shrimp OK in sand bed?

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Would a Callianassa ghost shrimp be good/OK in a sand bed or would it be likely to devestate the sand bed fauna?
 
Hi,

It probably wouldn't bother the sand bed fauna much, but you might need a really deep bed to keep the shrimp happy. Some Callianassa dig burrows severa meters long and deep. I would love to find some tropical Callianassids to try in a sand bed, but they are unavailable here. If you do try one in your aquarium, please consider a report letting me/us know how it worked.
 
I'll do that.....if I ever see him again.
I caught him under a small rock on the coast near where I live, so we're not talking about a Tropical species. (He's been in my sump for the last few days. I've now moved him to my refugium.)
He looks exactly like the picture in the book INVERTEBRATES by Julian Sprung, page 173, bottom picture.

Thank you very much for your help !
 
Hi,

All Callianassids look pretty much alike on a gross level, you need to examine them "up close and personal" to determine species, or frankly, even genus. I wouldn't care to identify anything using the reference you cited, it doesn't go into enough detail. I suggest you might check with a marine biologist at a local university for descriptions of the local fauna.

:D
 
I didn't look at him that closely myself.
I doubt if I could get much of an identification without taking the shrimp to a specialist, if there is one here.
Also, I gather there's a lot of work yet to be done in classifying Medditeranean species, even without taking into consideration the constant migration of species from the Red Sea via the Suez Canal (The major coastal current runs anti-clockwise, Northern end of the Suez Canal > Sinai Coast > Israel > Lebanon >Syria > Turkey. I've seen major changes quite frequently, and I'm far from being an expert)
 
Hi,

For many of the marine areas here in the states there are dichotomous keys or identification guides to the invertebrate fauna. Do you have anything like that to be able to use?

The problem with exotics must be driving people nuts, it is bad enough in some areas around here (particularly on the West Coast of the US - areas like San Francisco Bay are effectively trashed - so many invaders that there is nothing like the normal natural system left), but we don't have anything like the Suez to allow for migration.

Good luck with the identification process. :D
 
I suspect more effort is expended on tracking the migrations and population changes than on trying to catalogue the 'native' population. The canal was opened long before there was anyone around to make a serious attempt to catalogue fauna.
I've got a couple of identification guides, but nothing very useful. They don't even pretend to be exaustive. I'm not all that concerned with precise identification in any case. The thing's already in my system for good or ill.

Thanks again :)
 
Ron i ressurected this thread because i got a 'mud shrimp' from my lfs.. about 2 inches long and a nice orange color with medium sized claws.

looks like this one.

Callianassa_small.jpg


only more orange.

just wondering if u had any info on them. what ive learned so far is that they are extremely hardy, and filter feedders.. plus dig very long burrows (mine really seems to have gone to work on my dsb.
 
Hi,

They are not filter-feeders, they are scavenger/predators. Depending on how much remodelling of the bed it does, it could destroy the filtration capabilities of the DSB. They need a very deep sand bed (ca. 1- 2 m) to do well.
 
od damn.. how aggressive are they when hunting? any idea what their typica meal would be? will they hunt and kill decorative fish and shrimp?

;(
 
ron i saw the shrimp hanging out at the entrance to his burrow, so i dropped a pellet at the entrance and he ignored it. 1 hour later the pellet is still there and the shrimp is flutttering his paddles
 
Hi,

So it doesn't like what is in the pellet. :D Call it a re-pellent pellet :D

They typically either forage around the tops of their burrows or under the sand surface in the burrow galleries. In nature one shrimp can have burrows 50 to 100 feet or more long.
 
:D

ron i have him in my 65g with a 5" sandbed. Should i get him out or leave him be? do u think he will attack and eat my ornamental shrimp?

currently, i have 1 blood shrimp, 1 anemone crab, 2 serpent stars and a red linkia, plus plenty of sps/lps coral.

are my livestock in immediate danger?
 
Hi,

I really don't know about any immediate danger. The diets of many of the tropical species are very poorly known.
 
I'm bringing this thread back because I ordered a Callianassa Australiensis which is an Australian species. I have small gobies, a squat lobster, and a velvetfish. I am wondering if the Callianassa Australiensis will attack them. I think I should probably cancel that order...
 
Dr Ron doesn't post here much anymore. You may want to try the mantis forum. Gonodactylus aka Dr Roy is a mantis expert and may have some knowledge of this species.
 
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