thanks to all for hte offers - I picked up terry ricke's old cannister and it is doing exactly what I want - it added almost 2 gallons of total ater to my system, it hides underneath my stand nicely (26 gallon flat back hex) and it gets more surface water movement AND it allows me to run carbon so I can get rid of my HOB filter and run a CPR back-pack in its place ......
thanks again Terry - let me know how the frag and the candy cane take!
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