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CodeToad
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The XTi is more impressive than the 30D in many ways if you know what to look for 
Snickers- In my opinion at least...
Unforunatley I'm not very impressed with the 30D (which is really the 20D MKII) - where as the XTi has a few key features that are a first for Canon and a good step forward in the Canon lineup.
Snickers- In my opinion at least...Unforunatley I'm not very impressed with the 30D (which is really the 20D MKII) - where as the XTi has a few key features that are a first for Canon and a good step forward in the Canon lineup.
IBASSFSH
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XT1
XT1
I was looking at the 9 point focusing system, self cleaning sensor, and 10 mega pixels over the Rebel Xt's 8 megapixels.
Why is the XT1 cheaper $ than the 20D and 30D? They have less mega pixels capability. Since I am am not really upgrading from a Rebel XT ( I have a Canon s-20 3.3 megapixels), the XT1 is only about $100 bucks more.
XT1
I was looking at the 9 point focusing system, self cleaning sensor, and 10 mega pixels over the Rebel Xt's 8 megapixels.
Why is the XT1 cheaper $ than the 20D and 30D? They have less mega pixels capability. Since I am am not really upgrading from a Rebel XT ( I have a Canon s-20 3.3 megapixels), the XT1 is only about $100 bucks more.
CodeToad
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*laughs* Marketing... While megapixels isn't everything, the XTi does have some features that are impressive for it's price.
What happened (IMO atleast) is that Canon decided (sales dictated that) they need to get their entry level DSLR in the 10 megapixel range to keep up w/ the Nikon. Even though megapixels aren't everything, they are a big selling point - especially for the entry-level DSLR market.
In doing so they introduced a few new features that we will probably see trickle in some form into the next lineup. For example the self cleaning sensor is much needed - and although it isn't as good as the Olympus system it is still VERY welcome.
I don't think any more bodies will be announced this year, but I would venture to guess (and hope) that the 30D (cough - 20D MKII) will receive a face-lift as well as their oldest body the 1D MKII with some of these new features sometime soon here.
Why they re-did the 30D with such little substance is unclear - but it was obviously marketing driven, and I bet it worked!
What happened (IMO atleast) is that Canon decided (sales dictated that) they need to get their entry level DSLR in the 10 megapixel range to keep up w/ the Nikon. Even though megapixels aren't everything, they are a big selling point - especially for the entry-level DSLR market.
In doing so they introduced a few new features that we will probably see trickle in some form into the next lineup. For example the self cleaning sensor is much needed - and although it isn't as good as the Olympus system it is still VERY welcome.
I don't think any more bodies will be announced this year, but I would venture to guess (and hope) that the 30D (cough - 20D MKII) will receive a face-lift as well as their oldest body the 1D MKII with some of these new features sometime soon here.
Why they re-did the 30D with such little substance is unclear - but it was obviously marketing driven, and I bet it worked!
Blazer88
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I think the faster shutter speed of the 30D and up would be nice. The XTi is still only going to be 1/4000 where as the 20D/30D is 1/8000. Plus 1600/3200 ISO would come in handy for certain situations which the XTi won't have. And I'll wait to hear the verdict on how well the cleaning system actually works before I consider that a major plus. Plus I like the Magnesium alloy bodies on the higher end models. When I upgrade from my XT, it will probably be to the 30D or higher. The XTi seems more like a lateral move at this point.
Crepusculum
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Honestly I was a tiny bit upset when I read about the XTi because I recently purchased an XT. Of course the first thing that hit me was the megapixel rating, all I could think about was 'bugger'. Then I thought about it, I am still new to the camera scene, doesn't it have the same CMOS sensor? When I thought about it I reassured myself that the image quality is not going to be much different at all, even with the extra megapixels. In the long run you could have alot of megapixels and a really poor internal senors and your image wouldn't be good.
I suppose that's just me trying to reassure myself, but it seems logical Nevertheless, getting back to the question on the post. Considering how pleased I am with the XT I'm sure that the XTi with it's extra features will also be a fantastic entry level DSLR. I would go for it, if it only came out a month and a half ago
I suppose that's just me trying to reassure myself, but it seems logical
Nevertheless, getting back to the question on the post. Considering how pleased I am with the XT I'm sure that the XTi with it's extra features will also be a fantastic entry level DSLR. I would go for it, if it only came out a month and a half ago
CodeToad
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Crepusculum, don't sweat it - you didn't get pooped on. Yes the XTi has some nice new features and it's good Canon is doing them, and honsetly I'm more impressed w/ the XTi's changes than the changes made on the 30D - however
You still got a nice camera, and being new to the camera scene as you said, you will find the XT will offer you plenty of room to grow and enjoyment
You still got a nice camera, and being new to the camera scene as you said, you will find the XT will offer you plenty of room to grow and enjoyment
yetti
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Love my XT!!!!!!!!!! All of the photos on this page were taken with it and the 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens.
http://www.thefragfinder.com/tankphotos.htm
Scott
http://www.thefragfinder.com/tankphotos.htm
Scott
IBASSFSH
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Prices
Prices
I am by no means a pro with cameras. I just strive to take some good shots like alot of other people here on RC. I have been amazed by some of the photos on this site. I do not know if I can really justify a $1,100 camera body and then more money for the lenses. Not that I wouldn't if I had a abundant tank fund. I just want to get something that will still be a good camera a few years from now. I know technology goes forward every day like the computer market, I just don't want to go "man If i would have just spent another $200!!"
IS the Olympus a better or as good a camera? The local store showed me one (cannot remember the model) that was a little cheaper and came with two lenses. It looked very similar to the Rebel XT I was there to look at. Once again Thanks for all of the great comments.
Prices
I am by no means a pro with cameras. I just strive to take some good shots like alot of other people here on RC. I have been amazed by some of the photos on this site. I do not know if I can really justify a $1,100 camera body and then more money for the lenses. Not that I wouldn't if I had a abundant tank fund. I just want to get something that will still be a good camera a few years from now. I know technology goes forward every day like the computer market, I just don't want to go "man If i would have just spent another $200!!"
IS the Olympus a better or as good a camera? The local store showed me one (cannot remember the model) that was a little cheaper and came with two lenses. It looked very similar to the Rebel XT I was there to look at. Once again Thanks for all of the great comments.
IBASSFSH
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Lenses
Lenses
Olympus does not have as many options/lenses? Is there any truth to the story I read here that Canon takes Warmer looking pictures? I am assuming that refers to the yellows, oranges and reds mainly. Do certain brands (Nikon, Olympus, Canon) have better color and quality than another one?
Lenses
Olympus does not have as many options/lenses? Is there any truth to the story I read here that Canon takes Warmer looking pictures? I am assuming that refers to the yellows, oranges and reds mainly. Do certain brands (Nikon, Olympus, Canon) have better color and quality than another one?
CodeToad
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Getting down to brand preferance will most likely end up in an argument - in reality all three companies make a fine camera and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
When it comes to purchasing a camera, I belive its most important to first decide what you want the camera to do - I see FAR too often folks purchasing expensive slr equipment to find their pictures are just as good (or bad) as with their point-and-shoot, or have no interest in learning how to use the flexibility (and point) of an slr. I also see many folks purchase a point-and-shoot and take fantastic shots, some far far better than the self-proclaimed "I have a dslr so I'm an expert now" group. Once you decide what type of camera is right for you, then which brand you decide to go with is a personal choice based on what you like, what feels good, and 100 other factors only you can decide
When it comes to purchasing a camera, I belive its most important to first decide what you want the camera to do - I see FAR too often folks purchasing expensive slr equipment to find their pictures are just as good (or bad) as with their point-and-shoot, or have no interest in learning how to use the flexibility (and point) of an slr. I also see many folks purchase a point-and-shoot and take fantastic shots, some far far better than the self-proclaimed "I have a dslr so I'm an expert now" group. Once you decide what type of camera is right for you, then which brand you decide to go with is a personal choice based on what you like, what feels good, and 100 other factors only you can decide
raddogz
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As codetoad has pointed out it is mostly brand preference.
I started with film cameras specifically Canon and have a few nice lenses that I really don't want to part with.
If you have not previously purchased any lenses, then world is your oyster when it comes down to choosing one brand over the other.
I started with film cameras specifically Canon and have a few nice lenses that I really don't want to part with.
If you have not previously purchased any lenses, then world is your oyster when it comes down to choosing one brand over the other.
