Caulerpa webbiana ???
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Seahorsewisprer
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Looks incredibly FW!
AIMFish
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Trust me it's SW!! It is tiny tho. I have larger pics if anyone wants some. The pic w/ the hermit crab shows the scale a little but it grows really short maybe only 1" tall. It spreads just like other caulerpa, racemosa, send me a PM and I'll email you a larger pic or 2. Oh and did anyone find a good pic of webbiana on the web. None I have found have good pics like http://www.saltcorner.com/sections/guest/algaepage/algaepage.htm .
Seahorsewisprer
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Aim, I want some for real! I'll start a thread later of what I have to trade and when spring rolls around. maybe I can temp you into a trade? I know I have something you don't!
AIMFish
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I resized and cropped the pics from today and these are the 4 best. 2 showing roots for Samala, 1 showing my test battle between algae and mushrooms 
, and one showing a clown inspecting so you can get an idea on the size of it. Anyone have any more info on this plant? I have wider tank shots showing how dense it grows, the 3rd pic shows it pretty well tho, but I can't resize them to stay under limits.
, and one showing a clown inspecting so you can get an idea on the size of it. Anyone have any more info on this plant? I have wider tank shots showing how dense it grows, the 3rd pic shows it pretty well tho, but I can't resize them to stay under limits.
Seahorsewisprer
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Those roots appear to be holdfasts...
I really love that term! Holdfasts. Very simplistic, but so appropriate with some algae.
Aim, this is really a gorgeous macro! I have around 14 different types of macros. How can I talk you into a trade?
Maybe we should start a new thread with what we need to get around the country?
I really love that term! Holdfasts. Very simplistic, but so appropriate with some algae.
Aim, this is really a gorgeous macro! I have around 14 different types of macros. How can I talk you into a trade?
Maybe we should start a new thread with what we need to get around the country?
Samala
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Aim.. I think I found your plant.. Caulerpa verticillata. The shot from above reminded me of a pic in one of my books.. it doesnt show the fine detail you've given us here. 
Here's the algaebase pic. I'd love some eventually myself.
I have a feeling you two might have different species of Caulerpa. Have you tried rabbitfishes Elfa? (Siganus or Lo sp. I think they are..)
>Sarah
Here's the algaebase pic. I'd love some eventually myself. I have a feeling you two might have different species of Caulerpa. Have you tried rabbitfishes Elfa? (Siganus or Lo sp. I think they are..)
>Sarah
Yep. C. verticillata.
Indestructible, fast growing, invasive, unremovable due to the tiny rhizomes, and apparently doesn't taste too hot.
Having had it in my tank for better or worse for 7 years, I would not recommend anyone trying it. At one point, I scrubbed all of my rocks and left them in a light proofed tank for more than a year to see if I could kill it. As soon as it saw light, the beast returned.
Two things seem to eat it. Rabbitfish and long spine urchins. Neither are able to erradicate it.
Mike
Indestructible, fast growing, invasive, unremovable due to the tiny rhizomes, and apparently doesn't taste too hot.
Having had it in my tank for better or worse for 7 years, I would not recommend anyone trying it. At one point, I scrubbed all of my rocks and left them in a light proofed tank for more than a year to see if I could kill it. As soon as it saw light, the beast returned.
Two things seem to eat it. Rabbitfish and long spine urchins. Neither are able to erradicate it.
Mike
AIMFish
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2 foxfaces ate on it,(Lo vulpinus and Lo uspi) the Yellow Tangs, an Orange blue line (I can't decide between a Ctenochaetus striatus or Acanthurus Nigroris), Convict Tangs nibbled (Acanthurus triostegus). We are finding out tho that my algae is different
If you had access to any of these tangs or foxfaces break a piece of your algae off and take it to them to see if they like it before you buy one.Now I wonder if a cross Atlantic trade is possible?!!!
Thanks for the ID Samala. I plan on bringing some home so when spring comes around I'll have enough to harvest out for everyone wanting some
Sweet, time to take it to the 700 and try it on the Naso and Sailfin
You must not know what forum you are in
Now everyone will want some for sure 
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elfa
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Thanks AIMFish
I'm not sure how to do a cross atlantic shipment without spending a fortune. If you find a solution, I can naturally send you some.
I guess I have to bring some algae to the LFS and try it out in order to find a suitable fish. My present tank does not allow a very big fish e.g. Lo vulpinus can get big and its not allways reefsafe.
Vidar
I'm not sure how to do a cross atlantic shipment without spending a fortune. If you find a solution, I can naturally send you some.
I guess I have to bring some algae to the LFS and try it out in order to find a suitable fish. My present tank does not allow a very big fish e.g. Lo vulpinus can get big and its not allways reefsafe.
Vidar
Seahorsewisprer
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A Cup a day? I love Calfo! He is soooo cute! I went to dinner with him one night. I think he ordered shrimp? Incredibly nice man, I will always be a groupie of his.
Tell if I have the nutrient poor theory right: If the symbiotic algae is starving, it's mass will be less, thus allowing the color of the coral to show through? So, nutrient poor is better because the corals will have a better color?
I know the reefer heads push for ultra nutrient poor systems but there are new ideas coming out about providing an environment with some nutrients available for the growing cells. Not only the greenage you see, but the phyto and zoo plankton, the symbiotic algae inside the corals and the coral cells themselves.
Another thing to consider: If you are not adding the equivalent of a cup of DOC, it will be hard to pull out a cup of DOC! Nutrients out cannot outweigh nutrients in, IMO.
Tell if I have the nutrient poor theory right: If the symbiotic algae is starving, it's mass will be less, thus allowing the color of the coral to show through? So, nutrient poor is better because the corals will have a better color?
I know the reefer heads push for ultra nutrient poor systems but there are new ideas coming out about providing an environment with some nutrients available for the growing cells. Not only the greenage you see, but the phyto and zoo plankton, the symbiotic algae inside the corals and the coral cells themselves.
Another thing to consider: If you are not adding the equivalent of a cup of DOC, it will be hard to pull out a cup of DOC! Nutrients out cannot outweigh nutrients in, IMO.
You must not know what forum you are in
Well, the problem with this stuff is that once you have it, you're never rid of it and it aggressively overgrows anything in it's path, including other plants/algae. There are a lot of other things worth growing, including other Caulerpa's, that don't try to off all of their neighbors via overgrowth. I would be hesitant to start a culture of this stuff.
If you want an aggressive grower that is easily controlled, why not try Hypnea cervicornis? It's a bunch forming multibranched red which is fairly easily cultured and irresistible to fish. In fact, its one of the best ways to get difficult feeders started in a tank.
Mike
Seahorsewisprer
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I have that, maybe. It was a bit purple, now it is more red. Mine is growing slowly, though. Do you think hermits eat it? I have a few tiny ones in my planted.
