cephalopod sizes.

[blacklake]

Ok i know i am going to hear some negative feedback just was curious if there was a species that could thrive in a 14 gallon tank? So please i don't need negative or harsh feedback. Thank You Trev.

 

[Animal Mother]

Not really.

If you can find an O. mercatoris that would be pretty much it. Make sure you do lots of water changes and have a high powered skimmer.

 

[blacklake]

I was just wondering thank you i'm not going to go out and buy one i was just curious thank you for the reply.

 

[Echidna09]

Any other dwarf species should be okay in a 14 gallon. In the US, you are unlikely to get any besides O. Mercatoris though.

 

[craiglanda]

maybe O. Joubini?? someone correct me if i am wrong.... But i also here they are harder to find than the mercatoris...

 

[Animal Mother]

Yes, joubini seem to be rare in the trade recently, although they are very hard to distinguish from mercatoris. Apparently they are a small egged species, where as mercatoris are large egged, and that's about the only way to tell without dna tests.

 

[craiglanda]

Sorry to hijack the thread but are joubini's and mercatoris found in the same waters?

 

[blacklake]

Hey thank you guy's for the positive responses you all have been awesome.Trev.

 

[Animal Mother]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12124822#post12124822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by craiglanda
Sorry to hijack the thread but are joubini's and mercatoris found in the same waters?

Yes, Southeastern US coast, gulf of Mexico. They were thought to be the same species at one point in time.

 

[craiglanda]

Ahh so you cant even distinguish them from the location the were captured.. interesting

 

[gholland]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12124745#post12124745 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Animal Mother
Yes, joubini seem to be rare in the trade recently, although they are very hard to distinguish from mercatoris. Apparently they are a small egged species, where as mercatoris are large egged, and that's about the only way to tell without dna tests.

I think the O. joubini will typically be smoother-skinned, with different papillae arrangment compared to O. mercatoris. If you look at J. Forsythe's images on cephbase, the joubini only seem to have the papillae under the eyes, whereas the mercs have them above the eyes and at the tip of the mantle. Varys has always shown the multiple papillae and she is definitely the large-egg species. I haven't actually seen a joubini in person for comparison though.

http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/imgdb/imgdb.cfm

 

[gholland]

Well... as soon as I went and said Varys always looks like the mercatoris photos on cephbase, she came out and looked exactly like the joubini photos! Apparently those descriptions aren't as indicative as I thought...

Oh well. Carry on!

 

[lexcanaves]

Since this post is about sizes... Could anyone tell me how big an O. Hummelincki/Filosus will get?

 

[dreadhead119]

I think 2 to 3" mantel with 6 to 8" arms.

 

[Animal Mother]

Typically O. hummelincki will reach 7 inches from mantle tip to arm tips. Some get a little bigger. Small but very fun species.