LOTUS50GOD
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I prefer closed loop. I dont like the look for power heads in the display.
Power heads have to be cleaned, closed loop does not.
Power heads have to be cleaned, closed loop does not.
closed loop or tunzes
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oach
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8BALL_99 - please let me know how you like the tunze. I agree that it isn't an easy choice. I guess if you have multiple you could place them in a fashion that would allow you to create flow to the lower parts of the tank, but how can you cover the entire tank? Also how do you have your closed loop plumbed right now?
Anyone else have pics of their closed loop or any pics of their power heads in their large tank?
Anyone else have pics of their closed loop or any pics of their power heads in their large tank?
ReefWaters
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Vortechs
oach
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I know that vortechs have the motor outside the tank but I have heard they don't quite have the flow that the tunzes do? Would a vortech reach across a 6' tank? Also, they still hang on the tank.
I have been getting quotes on tanks and certain manufacturers say that adding holes to the bottom of the tank does compromise the integrity of the tank, while other do not. Which makes it tough. One also said that it seems that more and more people are going away from the closed loops because of the noise (?) and cost to run the big pump.
I have been getting quotes on tanks and certain manufacturers say that adding holes to the bottom of the tank does compromise the integrity of the tank, while other do not. Which makes it tough. One also said that it seems that more and more people are going away from the closed loops because of the noise (?) and cost to run the big pump.
RokleM
Premium Member
Yes and no oach. I have 2 Tunze 6100's and 2 Votech's in my 180 (6x2x2), so believe me when I say I won't rant and rave about one being DA BESTESTEST PRODUCT EVAR NO MATTER WHAT!?!!1 In my opinion, ignore the fanboys who only own one and proclaim that no matter what the situation is that one is better than the other. :rolleye1: To each their own, just my thoughts.
Personally, I've never run closed loop and don't honestly plan to. Nothing wrong with it per say, I'm just not interested in all the holes, plumbing, etc. I have enough plumbing for my tanks already
The spread on a Vortech is a bit bigger, however they lack the distance in power. Tunze's are more directional (but the flow is still spread out somewhat), but have a much better time covering greater distances. Flow is probably about the same overall, it's just a matter of how directional or spread out it is. Roger's support for Tunze is by far some of the best in the industry. I'm about to experience Vortech support, so we'll see how that goes.
All of that being said, Tunze is coming out with the completely overhauled models soon... so that could all change overnight.
My pumps are on the ends. The right 6100 blows behind the rockwork, the left one blows in front. The two Vortechs are mounted on the left and right panels, just a little forward and up from the center. Vortechs get things up close, the Tunze's get some great movement throughout the tank in general. For me, a combination of both is working out great. I'm getting ready to replace the tank with a 48x36x27, and honestly haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.
Personally, I've never run closed loop and don't honestly plan to. Nothing wrong with it per say, I'm just not interested in all the holes, plumbing, etc. I have enough plumbing for my tanks already
The spread on a Vortech is a bit bigger, however they lack the distance in power. Tunze's are more directional (but the flow is still spread out somewhat), but have a much better time covering greater distances. Flow is probably about the same overall, it's just a matter of how directional or spread out it is. Roger's support for Tunze is by far some of the best in the industry. I'm about to experience Vortech support, so we'll see how that goes.
All of that being said, Tunze is coming out with the completely overhauled models soon... so that could all change overnight.
My pumps are on the ends. The right 6100 blows behind the rockwork, the left one blows in front. The two Vortechs are mounted on the left and right panels, just a little forward and up from the center. Vortechs get things up close, the Tunze's get some great movement throughout the tank in general. For me, a combination of both is working out great. I'm getting ready to replace the tank with a 48x36x27, and honestly haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.
AC11337
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If i ever make a big one i would try and build a wavebox into it somehow. I would probably do a peninsula tank with a central internal overflow on the short end on the wall and then a wavebox on either side in such a way that they look like part of the overflow. I'd power the boxes with tunzes. Either something like the above or a few vortechs.
Agreed...I feel like there is a huge trend where people are wanting to either hide powerheads completely or not have them at all.
Vortechs are great for inwall tanks...where you can hide the motor and cords.
What do people usually use for large rimless tanks? It seems like closed loop is the only "clean and sleek" way to go, especially with a deep tank. How do you get flow to the front of the tank without putting a powerhead on the side or front glass? Flow coming from the bottom of the tank via CL would probably be the best.
What do you guys think is best way to go as far as flow on a large rimless tank?
oach
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RokleM - thank you for all that information and, I too, am having a hard time figuring out what I want to do, lol. Not an easy decision.
AC11337 - I had a wavebox in the past and like the movement they give to the tank. I have been reading a lot on how to make them yourself and just add a used 6100.
hatfielj - why won't you go back to tunzes? How long is your tank? Do the vortechs cover the full length? What type of customer service do they have? As RokleM mentioned above I know first hand how good tunzes is!
dcmander - nothing like hijacking a thread, lol.
Has anyone ever gone with a closed loop and regretted it later? I guess you can go that route and then cap off the closed loop, but once the tank is up and running and the tank isn't drilled - power heads it is! Thoughts?
AC11337 - I had a wavebox in the past and like the movement they give to the tank. I have been reading a lot on how to make them yourself and just add a used 6100.
hatfielj - why won't you go back to tunzes? How long is your tank? Do the vortechs cover the full length? What type of customer service do they have? As RokleM mentioned above I know first hand how good tunzes is!
dcmander - nothing like hijacking a thread, lol.
Has anyone ever gone with a closed loop and regretted it later? I guess you can go that route and then cap off the closed loop, but once the tank is up and running and the tank isn't drilled - power heads it is! Thoughts?
