clown trigger

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13025641#post13025641 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by humaguy
beautiful specimins..

my oldest is a 13 year blue face then a pinktail, huma and dominoe damsel that are each about 10 years.

nice to see how long these fish can sustain in healthy environments...

Any pictures?

 

[Wolverine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13022640#post13022640 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by humaguy
Hypo with Chem Marin worked wonders for me..and did not bother my fish, including my puffers.

So what did the Chem Marin add to the hypo treatment?

 

[humaguy]

The chem marin was used in place of the copper.
I have only used it once but it worked very well and cleared up the problem. I avoid copper as I have puffers, live rock etc. that are sensitive to it. They did not have a problem with the chem marin.
I think the idea behind the chem marin is interesting...providing a false host etc...anyway, it worked for me...

Zoom, I will post some pics when I get the time.

 

[Wolverine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13029132#post13029132 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by humaguy
The chem marin was used in place of the copper.
I have only used it once but it worked very well and cleared up the problem. I avoid copper as I have puffers, live rock etc. that are sensitive to it. They did not have a problem with the chem marin.
I think the idea behind the chem marin is interesting...providing a false host etc...anyway, it worked for me...

What I'm asking is that if you used it and hypo together, how can you say which of them was causing the benefit. Hypo alone can successfully cure ich, so I'm just wondering how you can say for sure that the chem marin is what did the job?

 

[reefer334]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13023899#post13023899 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
No problem humaguy... i never use anything in my reef tanks anyway.
I treat everything in a large quarantine tank for six to ten weeks .
Here is a new Clown trigger in my 200G reef tank .
He was quarantine for five weeks with copper and moved to a 100G reef tank to see /check if he was coral / fish safe for ten weeks i now have him in the reef tank for over two months.
Here is some old tangs with him a 15 years old yellow and 9 years old purple .

SWEET TANK!!!!


I love that clown trigger in the reef!!!


You got me thinkin now LOL.


Chris

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13029789#post13029789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefer334
SWEET TANK!!!!


I love that clown trigger in the reef!!!


You got me thinking now LOL.


Chris

I will not recommend a Clown trigger to any one to have it in a reef tank.
I did alat of work to find one that is tame, it took me about 10 week to see if this CT is good candidate for my reef tank one of the three i try made it .
The one i had for five years was one out of five .
I have a good LFS that i get my aquarium staff from them for many years, so i can take them back if they don't make the cut after short time, i don't do this very often so they put up with it . .
After three months i hope this one will make it in the reef tank, is now two months with no problems but he is getting bigger every day and at about four inches i will know for sure .
Many living things i don't have in the reef tank that i like, like clams ,hermits, crabs, shrimp,some snails and some fish that the clown trigger hates .
The clown triggers they are ferocious eaters so i have alat of work trying to keep the water clean in my reef tank .
I have to keep BB tank with them in the tank ,i have to cover all the wires in the tank, i already had to get one new tunze pump because the trigger bite the cord and expose the wires good thing was only 24V .
Any way they are my salt water pet dogs so i take many risk with them been in my reef tank but i really like them.

 

[danorth]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13029224#post13029224 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Wolverine
What I'm asking is that if you used it and hypo together, how can you say which of them was causing the benefit. Hypo alone can successfully cure ich, so I'm just wondering how you can say for sure that the chem marin is what did the job?

Hypo made my fish swell up and look like its going to burst and cause harm...in fact I think it is to blame for a flame angel's death. When parasites are an issue I don't see why going with only one treatment is best. You only know it isn't working after a fish is dead. That doesn't give you much time to reevaluate and come up with a second solution.

Copper and Prazipro have saved my fish before, and I used them at the same time.

 

[Wolverine]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13034863#post13034863 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by danorth
Hypo made my fish swell up and look like its going to burst and cause harm...in fact I think it is to blame for a flame angel's death. When parasites are an issue I don't see why going with only one treatment is best. You only know it isn't working after a fish is dead. That doesn't give you much time to reevaluate and come up with a second solution.

Copper and Prazipro have saved my fish before, and I used them at the same time.

So you don't know which one saved the fish. Either way, I didn't necessarily say that one treatment is always best. I just disagree with the sentiment that one could say, in this case, for example, that Chem Marin was successful when it was used with hypo.
I disagree with the statement that you only know it's not working if the fish dies. You know if they're not getting better that it's not working.
As for hypo, I've never heard of fish having that response when it's done correctly. That sounds like an issue of the salinity being dropped too rapidly.

 

[mr. clown man]

alrighty, the triggers are currently in the hospital tank and are looking better after only being in there two days, i asked my lfs how the clown could have picked up ich(knowing that this fish is tougher than most) they suggested that the picasso trigger was stressed out from the acclimation and the new home and the clown caught it from the picasso, my question now is is there anything i should do to the main tank, i did a 30% water change today. any help would be appreciated.

thanks

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13048094#post13048094 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mr. clown man
alrighty, the triggers are currently in the hospital tank and are looking better after only being in there two days, i asked my lfs how the clown could have picked up ich(knowing that this fish is tougher than most) they suggested that the picasso trigger was stressed out from the acclimation and the new home and the clown caught it from the picasso, my question now is is there anything i should do to the main tank, i did a 30% water change today. any help would be appreciated.

thanks

I'm glad you are taking some measures to take care the Ich problem .
I saw clown triggers get ich and die just as fast as some other tough fish .
If you have any other fish in your main tank they need treatment also in a different quarantine tank.
If you have no other fish in the main tank 8 to 10 week without any new additions in that tank it will be free of ich.
Good luck.

 

[mr. clown man]

thanks, i love both my clown trigger and my picasso, both are amazing fish. the only animal i have in there is a small snowflake eel...and from what ive heard they are not carriers of ich, and when should it be ok to add the triggers back into the main display?

thanks

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13050043#post13050043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
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If you have no other fish in the main tank 8 to 10 week without any new additions in that tank it will be free of ich.
Good luck.

 

[prime311]

Snowflake Eels are carriers of ich, but rarely seem susceptible to it. So, as long as the SFE is in the tank, the ich will be there, just not visibly noticeable.