Clownfish List & Pictures

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Whoa ... I thought it was a natural instinct for clowns to like anemones. But then again I am new to this so I haven't done my homework =/
 
Angelic said:
Whoa ... I thought it was a natural instinct for clowns to like anemones. But then again I am new to this so I haven't done my homework =/
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Natural instinct... Yes
Is that the natural host of an ocellaris clown... Nope
Will ocellaris clowns usually host anything they can find... You bet
The thing is is may have been happy hosting something else or just didn't feel the need until it matured.
 
Since there is all but one other picture of this species in this forum... Are they really that uncommon? Ive had this girl for about a year now... obviously doing quite well in her 10" RBTA.

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Sorta been trying to post these pics all over, trying to find out if anyone really has any direct experience with them. I'm wondering if they have been sucesfully bred in captivaty?
 
The best way is to look at the eyes. True Percs have solid, bright orange circle around the black pupal. In Ocellaris the ring is "dusky" or a mottled orange.
 
clownfish list & pictures

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wood, thanks for the pics that is exactly what I have been looking for. Based on the pics in your list a clown that I was told was a tomatoe clown is a cinnamon clown. Are you sure you are correct? I was also told that there are two species of tomatoe clown fish and you only have one listed. Do you know of this other species? I hope you do because I am trying to find out what it is. You see, I am trying to breed clowns myself. I already had an adult tomatoe clown (but from looking at your pics she is not) and I just purchased a juvenile. The juvenile has two white stripes but otherwise looks just like the one you have in your pic. I purchased my clowns from two seperate dealers and each claim that they sold me a tomatoe clown. So I need some help to make sure I have the right fish so that I may get a spawn someday. If you can help I would appreciate it. Thanks
 
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jcreef said:
wood, thanks for the pics that is exactly what I have been looking for. Based on the pics in your list a clown that I was told was a tomatoe clown is a cinnamon clown. Are you sure you are correct? I was also told that there are two species of tomatoe clown fish and you only have one listed. Do you know of this other species? I hope you do because I am trying to find out what it is. You see, I am trying to breed clowns myself. I already had an adult tomatoe clown (but from looking at your pics she is not) and I just purchased a juvenile. The juvenile has two white stripes but otherwise looks just like the one you have in your pic. I purchased my clowns from two seperate dealers and each claim that they sold me a tomatoe clown. So I need some help to make sure I have the right fish so that I may get a spawn someday. If you can help I would appreciate it. Thanks
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You are currently experiancing the biggest problem in using common names... :D As far as the two banded one goes it is most likely a juv. and it will lose the second stripe as it matures leaving only the head bar. If you are not looking to breed a true bloodline, clowns in the tomatoe complex with cross breed otherwise your best bet is to wait until you find a mate locally so you can id it instead of trusting the description of an online fish. Waiting will also give you time to fatten up the female and get her ready for a mate.
 
Great pics, once I get my digital camera going I will add a few, hopefully a couple of Mcc pics too. I don't know if I understand this onyx clown thing entirely, but if onyx percs are entirely black, how can you tell the difference between onyx percs and black ocellaris. The reason I ask is that I recently purchased a pair of what were supposed to be N.T percs, the strange thing was the male was entirely orange and the female was completely black except for her face. They were full grown and appeared sexually mature. The LFS was adamant they were percs, some kind of special black percs, I didn't really believe it but I thought either way they were a nice and healthy pair so I purchased them. It has been less then two months and now the male is changing colour to black and the female's face is now going black. I have never counted there dorsal fin spines and am not entirely sure how many spines each species is supposed to have (conflicting accounts). When they started changing colour I just assumed they were black o clowns but after reading this thread I'm a bit confused. Here is a pic,

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=80481&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500

The main reason I ask is that the LFS also said that ocellaris and perc clowns have a different 'wriggle' in their swim, he pointed it out with another ocellaris pair and there seemed to be something in it.
 
Mr Blue,

Looks like regular black ocellaris to me...and where they originated from would point to it as well. The black occis start out regular colored and get black as they grow in size, if you don't already know that. (BTW, I'll send you a PM re black occis)

Blackest "onyx" perc I have seen is the male that I have. He is a PNG black perc and has almost all his fins black. "Regular" black percs have black between the white stripes; and onyx are supposed to just be fully black (between the white) as opposed to partially black

Did I just confuse you more?:p

Here is a pic of my black, black perc...

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The black ocellaris came from the Northern Territory in Aus. Well, I am still a little confused, so onyx percs are entirely black and white, similar to black ocellaris or are they all black except for their faces. Where exactly are they supposed to come from? I did know black ocellaris got their color over time but I thought it was supposed happen in like the first year (don't quote me, couldn't find source), my pair are much older then that.
 
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The black ocellaris came from the Northern Territory in Aus. Well, I am still a little confused, so onyx percs are entirely black and white, similar to black ocellaris or are they all black except for their faces. Where exactly are they supposed to come from? I did know black ocellaris got their color over time but I thought it was supposed happen in like the first year (don't quote me, couldn't find source), my pair are much older then that.
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Onyx percs are supposed to be all black between the white bars, plus having a black dorsal. The other fins and face are orange. There are no black percs like the black ocellaris. The closest is my male and he's probably one in a few thousand. Onyx is kind of like a trade name of a type/variant of black perc. Don't know their origin but I believe the name was coined by ORA?

True, it is strange that your male ocellaris got black late in life....generally they get black within a yr. One thing though, is that maybe your pair is actually younger than you think - wild growth rates are often much faster than in a captive environment....
 
Most one here say that onyx fits any percula with a solid black band going from white head stripe to white tail stripe. They do not require black fins, but some say that to be a true onyx the clown must be black inbetween the head and tail bars including the fins.
 
Onyx was coined by C-Quest. As far as ocellaris darkening it is a normal occurance in my experiance. I have a female that has been adding black to here bars and along her back for years. This also occured with a few other O pairs I have had and sold or lost... I believe nutrition has a little to do with it as does age.
 
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