common loss rates?

kaiboshi

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I'm curious about loss rates when dealing with ick in a situation where you don't jump on treatment right away. I am dealing with a breakout that started in my DT and at this point I've lost like 75% of my fish. LFS people led me astray (a week of the wrong treatment) with a misdiagnosis even though they are all regulars on reefcentral they are still misinformed. Anyway, I'm not looking to blame anyone or anything I just wonder if ick is as nasty as it seems.
 
Well I'm not 100% positive but I thought it was ich.

I'll try to keep my story brief here. The inhabitants before this started were 3 dwarf fuzzy lions, 1 longfin bannerfish, 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 blue damsel and a dragon goby. The latest addition was the 3rd lion, added about 2 weeks or so before I noticed the first signs of a problem. I didn't quarantine, I've learned my lesson thoroughly. Starting from the beginning with previous conditions in my DT...upon returning from vacation this summer I noticed that my bannerfish's dorsal was like half the length it was when I left, after some observation I noted that my clowns were harassing the bannerfish a bit at night, chasing his dorsal. Bannerfish started to get some white spots around the edge of his fins, lfs likened it to cold sores and told me to use melafix and try to stop the agression. I resumed feeding normally and the agression stopped, the bannerfish grew back his dorsal. Maybe a month or 6 weeks later I picked up the dragon goby, he had flukes, treated successfully with prazipro.

About 3 weeks ago I noticed the bannerfish's dorsal was "shrinking" and a few days later the same kind of spots showed up on his fins. Talked to lfs, they suggested it might be the same thing, my clowns are a pair now and they have an established territory so they got pretty mean. I dosed for a week with melafix (this is the wrong treatment I was talking about in my previous post) and by the end of the week my bannerfish was TOTALLY covered in white spots and I noticed my clowns were starting to show some very small spots or like a kinda coating (which i interpereted as the "veil of death"). I wasn't able to get to the lfs to get cupramine because of work (family hvac, working until after the store closes, cold = busy and one of our guys broke his leg so I'm filling in for him). The day I got the cupramine the bannerfish (covered in white spots) and the smallest/newest lion (no signs of ANYTHING whatsoever) died. My other 2 lions now had cloudy eyes (supposedly the lions show it first in the eyes 'cuz of their cuticle, which they had been shedding) At this point I dosed DT with copper then realized how foolish that was so I removed the copper with carbon and moved all fish from DT to a hospital I threw together and dosed with cupramine again (following the instructions, after testing the water for copper with the seachem copper test kit). Within the first 48 hours my dragon goby and another of my lions had died. After the second dose of cupramine (to get the concentration to the desired level, as per directions) one of my clowns died.

At this point I've got 1 lion, 1 clown and 1 blue damsel left in the hospital. The damsel never really seemed to get any visible spots, the clown seems to be clearing up but it's kinda hard to see 'cuz the lighting sucks and the lion doesn't appear to have anymore spots on her body and her eyes are clearing up. They eat like pigs but they don't like being in a relatively bare tank. I've got the temp at 81 degrees, that might have them uncomfortable too.

So I obviously let the parasites fester for too long, won't happen again 'cuz I'll be quarantining from now on. 62.5% isn't 75% but still, it seems like I got totally smoked here =] I was just wondering if that is the normal case for a situation like this.
 
Some people have few (or no) casualties - others can lose all of their fish. Depends in part on the stocking level, type of fish, and overall condition of the tank.

In general ... high stocking levels contribute to higher mortality - probably due to the higher stress levels associated with having more fish which in turn reduces the fish's immune system.

You should consider Qting all of your current fish .. and treating with either hypo or copper .. then letting your display tank go fishless for about six weeks.

QT all future fish and consider changing the quantity and type of fish you stocked with.
 
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