Coral Beauty with Flame Angel??

[BangkokMatt]

Hi
Has anybody had success with these fish sharing a tank. I know popular opinion says it is not wise but I have seen them sharing in two systems happily and am considering getting a coral beauty.
What do you reckon ?
Matt

 

[Kung]

Is it a seven thousand gallon tank? I would say the bigger the tank, the better chance you have of pulling it off. That said, it's still a risk, and why take it? Maybe it will work out, or maybe you will kill $150 worth of fish in an afternoon. Who knows? I wouldn't chance it, dude. Especially if you are planning on trying that in your 50 gallon. There would be war.

 

[stykthyn]

lets get ready to ruummmblllee!!!
oh yea, that mix is not going to work.
go with the flame angel, you will be happier with him.

 

[ACBlinky]

It can be done, but it doesn't always work. I have four angels (flagfin, flame, coral beauty and whitetailed pygmy) in my 65g and they don't fight. They've established a hierarchy, take turns eating and keep out of each other's way. I do keep a close eye on things because as they grow it things may change, but for the last six months or so they've behaved like perfect gentlemen. Eventually they'll be moving into a much larger tank (to accomodate the flagfin) so I'm hoping they'll be together for years to come.

 

[FishPharm]

I have both in a 180 gallon tank. They were both introduced together about 4 months ago. Though the coral beauty is a bit more dominant than the flame, they coexist peacefully. I also am fortunate neither nip at any sps corals. These two cruise around the tank nibbling on the rockwork while I supplement with a bit of nori banded onto a several small rocks, I toss in every other day.

 

[VikeBron]

I have both along with a Potters in my system. Never a problem with any but it will depend on how large your system is.

 

[dougie]

i had a flame, bi color, and coral beauty together in a 55g, just keep an eye on them.

Cheers.

 

[jakaufman]

im surprised that people have had success.. my first instinct was HELL NO but i guess it can work

add at the same time if you are gonna chance it

 

[Angel*Fish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7895127#post7895127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jakaufman


add at the same time if you are gonna chance it

Very important not to let one fish get established first

Also might be a good idea to get the CB slightly larger than the flame.

If they are not going to tolerate each other you'll know fairly early on. One technique is to quarantine them together. (By quarantine I don't mean a sterile hospital tank)

 

[IanInDC]

Congeneric Centropyge coexistence -- if properly managed -- is very clearly the rule, and problems the exception. This has been the case with every experienced hobbyist I've ever encountered, with LFS exhibits and local LFS owners' personal tanks, and even a friend who runs aquaria for the National Zoo here (he even put a mismatched pair in his girlfriend's tank!)

The problems arise when hobbyists make beginner mistakes like letting one get nice and established and then adding another, smaller one later, or putting the pair in too-small a tank (two centropyges, especially males, shouldn't be swimming around in a 40 breeder, for example).

But the idea that it's impossible is very clearly not the case. I think, just like with mandarins and a few other fish, it's a case of urban legend.

 

[BangkokMatt]

Hi

Thanks for all the advice. When I went to the LFS they happened to have a Paracentropyge venustus (Venustus Pygmy, Halfmoon Angel) and it is bigger than the Flame so it is now at home in the tank. I am delighted. 24 hours on and no significant problems other than shyness. Hopefully it will eat as this seems to be a general difficulty with this fish.

 

[Angel*Fish]

These fish are cave dwellers -so if you don't have them already, some nice large sized caves and overhangs might facilitate eating. It probably helps that you are closer to the collection site and the fish may not have been through as much stress as they are put through getting to the states.

This fish would appreciate a piece of partially uncured live rock in the cave area. Any live food that's available to you would be great.

In the wild these fish spend a lot of time upside down picking off the cave ceiling - If you notice an unusual swimming style it could be this tendency to want to turn upside down. Of course that can also be a be swim bladder problem from improper collection.
I would imagine that he and the flame will be just fine- and from your post, it sounds like it. Flames don't like fish that have those rear horizontal stripes like the venustus has and vertical body stripes seem to be annoying as well. But your new fish is already larger and destined to stay that way which helps - in addition it's a shy fish

Please keep us posted on how these do together - it's very interesting and not that often you find someone with a venustus and flame together

Again, and please excuse my post if you've already done this research - this fish must have caves & overhangs to feel comfortable in your tank. Dimming the lights for a while would be helpful also.

What I would try is squirting some live brine or frozen mysis such that it will get snagged on the cave ceiling

HTH - Good luck!

 

[siding88]

i have both and they get along just great and a lemonpeel also been together for about 8 months

 

[Angel*Fish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7909194#post7909194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by siding88
i have both and they get along just great and a lemonpeel also been together for about 8 months

That 's sounds pretty cool - does your Venusta do any upside down swimming or has he adjusted to the regular right side up mode

BTW, BangkokMatt's tank is 55g and if yours are in a 365g the compatibilty issues are less intense