Coral prep

JonV88 said:
And in far future like 4 years from now my plan is bigger tank so use this 29 gal as a sump or QT right now I only have a 10 gal QT
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My future plan is a 50 gallon, and turn my 20 gallon into a sump, or Q.T. cause 50 gallon I'd be able to get bigger fish, and add a lot more than this 20 gallon.


current 20L plans for corals:
green trumpet coral
torch coral/hammer coral
any polyps (zoas, GSP, etc)
toadstool

20L plans for fish:
right now I have the perc. clown pair in my 10g Q.T.

royal gamma
tail spot blenny
firefish/purple firefish
a wrasse of some sort that will do good in a 20 gallon.
 
haha is that a hydor koralia? I'm getting a 425 in the mail around 2 pm today! along with the light order. hoping it will do good for my tank
 
thatreefguy22 said:
My future plan is a 50 gallon, and turn my 20 gallon into a sump, or Q.T. cause 50 gallon I'd be able to get bigger fish, and add a lot more than this 20 gallon.


current 20L plans for corals:
green trumpet coral
torch coral/hammer coral
any polyps (zoas, GSP, etc)
toadstool

20L plans for fish:
right now I have the perc. clown pair in my 10g Q.T.

royal gamma
tail spot blenny
firefish/purple firefish
a wrasse of some sort that will do good in a 20 gallon.
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That's a lot of fish for 20 gallons. I know an ocellaris pair needs about 25 gallons, but I'm not sure about percula. You might be at your limit with just those two.
 
arnoldrew said:
That's a lot of fish for 20 gallons. I know an ocellaris pair needs about 25 gallons, but I'm not sure about percula. You might be at your limit with just those two.
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this list is just what fish I am interested in adding through the time of keeping the tank.

it's a 20 gallon long, I was told I should be okay adding 3 small fish. I have a good amount of rock for bio filtration.

at most, I might add a fire fish to go along with these 2 clowns.
 
In the absence of better mechanical filtration, you really need more "Real" Live Rock. Regardless of Bio Load, you can "Never" have to much Live Rock… But you can have too little… which you do… Just buy $10 or so here or there. The more established and porous the live rock the better.
 
SoLiD said:
In the absence of better mechanical filtration, you really need more "Real" Live Rock. Regardless of Bio Load, you can "Never" have to much Live Rock"¦ But you can have too little"¦ which you do"¦ Just buy $10 or so here or there. The more established and porous the live rock the better.
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I agree to this. I also thought he had too little.

@JonV88,
I recommend you go get more rock for the tank.
base rock works, just have to populate it yourself to make it "Live" with bacteria, which is the bio filtration. I'm sure you already know :)

I have a 20 gallon long with almost exactly 20lbs of live rock with some base rock that is now looking really good and is being populated with this life to break down any bio load it needs to.

you say your tank is 29g...get more rock in there. :)
 
Base Rock takes months to really start working for you. Buy "Real" Live Rock which will be loaded with the important Denitrifying bacteria, copepods,coraline algae and so on. You also need to keep up with your water changes. If after 8 months you have zero coraline algae and you are still battling diatoms, you most certainly have excess nutrients.

Before you buy or add anything else… Add More "Real" Live Rock… The real stuff… Not Base Rock or the stuff that has been sitting dry for 1+ years then wet for 3months… You'll be glad you did… Check out crags list; You might get lucky.
 
Also… Nutrients and Minerals are not the same thing… Nutrients are the things we try to take out rather than add back in. Nutrients build up fast and can crash any tank or just make it look Blah.

Keep Reading. :)
 
SoLiD said:
Base Rock takes months to really start working for you. Buy "Real" Live Rock which will be loaded with the important Denitrifying bacteria, copepods,coraline algae and so on. You also need to keep up with your water changes. If after 8 months you have zero coraline algae and you are still battling diatoms, you most certainly have excess nutrients.

Before you buy or add anything else"¦ Add More "Real" Live Rock"¦ The real stuff"¦ Not Base Rock or the stuff that has been sitting dry for 1+ years then wet for 3months"¦ You'll be glad you did"¦ Check out crags list; You might get lucky.
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I still have some diatoms pop up, not a lot though. 2 weeks ago I did a 10% water change, and tonight I've been making new saltwater for a 20%...
after these 2 weeks, I've noticed more build up (obviously lol) build up as in diatoms on the sand and back glass. snails take care of a lot, too. I only have 2 turbos ATM. and I'm starting to see some cyano (i think that's what It is) pop up around the diatoms. few dots, here and there. Cyano is unavoidable. I'm only running a single fluorescent bulb! I'm gonna be getting my dual T5HO soon...then I'll be seeing everything.

Coraline is starting to show on my base rock, and my snails shell more than before..
just depends on how well you keep with water changes, as that will keep your levels about in range.
 
SoLiD said:
Also"¦ Nutrients and Minerals are not the same thing"¦ Nutrients are the things we try to take out rather than add back in. Nutrients build up fast and can crash any tank or just make it look Blah.

Keep Reading. :)
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Nutrients you're talking about is 2 main....nitrates and phosphates?
That's the only 2 I've ever heard of that cause the most problems.
I keep my nitrates around 10-15ppm. you want to have some.
I don't test for phosphates, but was thinking of getting phosphate filter media just in case.
 
Live rock is great but watch out for the bad hitchhikers, most worms are good, but you may get a bad guy. Also I got a gorilla crab HH that killed a lot of my coral before I knew he was in the tank.
 
thatreefguy22 said:
this list is just what fish I am interested in adding through the time of keeping the tank.

it's a 20 gallon long, I was told I should be okay adding 3 small fish. I have a good amount of rock for bio filtration.

at most, I might add a fire fish to go along with these 2 clowns.
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Firefish are very timid and it's not uncommon for them to be so intimidated by other fish during feeding time that they end up starving to death. Adding one to a small tank already dominated by a pair of established clowns sound like a bad idea. Percula are more agressive than the more common Ocellaris, from what I understand.
 
arnoldrew said:
Firefish are very timid and it's not uncommon for them to be so intimidated by other fish during feeding time that they end up starving to death. Adding one to a small tank already dominated by a pair of established clowns sound like a bad idea. Percula are more agressive than the more common Ocellaris, from what I understand.
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Thanks for the tip!!
 
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