Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

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I know this would be more work for you both. The real problem is height restriction, that piping over the tank needs to be smaller and installed on the two sides of the tank (front & back). You need to raise the lights up as high as you can, so that you can get a better light spread.
Sorry that's not the best advice you want to hear.

The best advice is honest advice, no matter how how much we don't like it :)

Changing optics seems to be the best solution for the Orphek LED. I tried angling it from 30-40˚ and it looks much better. The hot spot on the bottom is diminished/blended and max PAR just below the surface is lowered from 900 - a more usable 600, and the PAR on the substrate is knocked down to 150-200 where we want it.

One possibility is we position the lights parallel to the tank with one light on either side of the duct work, then angle them in to spread the light. This is my usual method as it directs light away from the viewing panels where algae can grow, and on to fish and corals for fewer shadows and better photosynthesis. We tried this briefly, but there is still a hit spot and it gets in the way of tank access.

Taking a second look at the light a day later gives new perspective. I measured the suspension distance and the light was only 6.5" above the water surface, not 12" as I had thought. I was able to raise it another 2" which helped marginally. The problem remains that the emitters are too bright for the optics (lenses), resulting in a spot light effect. The light is a victim of its own success. The next step is to try 120˚ optics to dim the centre of the "beam" and brighten the outer margins. Right now the sand looks vivid white/blue under the lights footprint, then yellowish in the outer margins.

I tried the light on a 30L x 30W x 26H tank last night and it fit much better. I was able to mount the light as high as necessary, but it still had the same spotlight issue, but to a lesser extent. Angling the light is an option, but I believe wider or frosted optics is a better solution.

I have been talking to the manufacturer about a special order version without fans, on board ballasts and using a third party controller instead of the built-in timers. This should trim some cost, reduce noise, and save space. We can informally call it the Mr. Wilson Signature Series (unless it burns the diodes out) :) Another suggestion I will make is to design the light to cover a modular 2' x 2' footprint so it can be adapted and scaled for typical tanks of 2'L x 2'W, 4'L x 2'W, 6'L x 2'W and beyond. The problem there is when you get custom tanks that are 30"-36" wide, and deeper than 24" as in Peter's case. You need 1.5 lights to fill the space so you either over illuminate or under illuminate to fill the gap.

We took a hard look at the light on the 100 gallon tank last night and it looks like it's a keeper, once we dial in the optics. It will be replacing a 1 x 250 watt HQI + 4 x 24 watt T5 Giesemann fixture. That's 120 watts vs. 346 for a 226 watt reduction. I tested the 1 - 2 year old MHL bulb for PAR and it was a frighteningly low 30 (not 300) 30" below the light with no water in the tank. This is the one factor that is tipping me in favour of LED, no bulb replacement, colour shift, uniform colour, and no loss of intensity over time. A lot of the LED proponents brag about how much energy it saves, but we only pay $0.12/KWH here in Canada, so the savings isn't as dramatic as it is in California for example. In this application, you would save $8.25 per month in energy costs. A typical T5 or ML fixture would cost half as much as the Orphek so it would normally take five years to pay off, but in this case the Giesemann fixture is actually more expensive. Once you factor in $158.00 per year for new bulbs, it closes the gap significantly. In other words, you save $158.00 per year in bulb costs if you switch from MHL to LED, but you only save $99.00 in energy cost. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in for saving the planet, I'm just pointing out that the greater share of operating cost comes from bulb replacement, not energy.

I will post some pics of the comparison in a few minutes.
 
Peter/ Mr.Wilson,

Guys, You may want to try out Aqua Illumination LED. I set up a unit at ORG and it really impressed me. Unfortunately couldn't get a great set-up as I was installing the unit in a tight area but nevertheless it is VERY IMPRESSIVE!

I convince you to go with Profilux a while ago... now take my advice again and check out the Aqua Illumination. With the 60deg optics and 3.8W LED, a great heat sink, you will see that it might very well be the fixture for you.

Peter seems to be set on LED... If I were him I'd be going down that path too. If you want me to bring a unit out for trial I will personally bring one to you. Tom won't mind.. trust me.... he owes me!

Let me know if you are interested.

Yes, I have been working with Chris at Aqua Illuminations for a few months now to come up with options for Peter's tank. He is sending me a light to try and it should be here any day. I have seen a few tanks with AI lighting and have been following the reviews on the forums. It appears to be the best light currently in the market.

I have installed a half dozen GHL Profilux controllers over the past three years. I agree, they are a perfect match for Peter's tank.

We have ordered 9 AI Nano lights for one of the MARS systems, but they keep getting delayed in production. The latest estimation puts the early release units a month away. These things happen with new products, and I appreciate that they are not prematurely rushing a product to market.
 
The best advice is honest advice, no matter how how much we don't like it :)

Changing optics seems to be the best solution for the Orphek LED. I tried angling it from 30-40˚ and it looks much better. The hot spot on the bottom is diminished/blended and max PAR just below the surface is lowered from 900 - a more usable 600, and the PAR on the substrate is knocked down to 150-200 where we want it.

One possibility is we position the lights parallel to the tank with one light on either side of the duct work, then angle them in to spread the light. This is my usual method as it directs light away from the viewing panels where algae can grow, and on to fish and corals for fewer shadows and better photosynthesis. We tried this briefly, but there is still a hit spot and it gets in the way of tank access.

Taking a second look at the light a day later gives new perspective. I measured the suspension distance and the light was only 6.5" above the water surface, not 12" as I had thought. I was able to raise it another 2" which helped marginally. The problem remains that the emitters are too bright for the optics (lenses), resulting in a spot light effect. The light is a victim of its own success. The next step is to try 120˚ optics to dim the centre of the "beam" and brighten the outer margins. Right now the sand looks vivid white/blue under the lights footprint, then yellowish in the outer margins.

I tried the light on a 30L x 30W x 26H tank last night and it fit much better. I was able to mount the light as high as necessary, but it still had the same spotlight issue, but to a lesser extent. Angling the light is an option, but I believe wider or frosted optics is a better solution.

I have been talking to the manufacturer about a special order version without fans, on board ballasts and using a third party controller instead of the built-in timers. This should trim some cost, reduce noise, and save space. We can informally call it the Mr. Wilson Signature Series (unless it burns the diodes out) :) Another suggestion I will make is to design the light to cover a modular 2' x 2' footprint so it can be adapted and scaled for typical tanks of 2'L x 2'W, 4'L x 2'W, 6'L x 2'W and beyond. The problem there is when you get custom tanks that are 30"-36" wide, and deeper than 24" as in Peter's case. You need 1.5 lights to fill the space so you either over illuminate or under illuminate to fill the gap.

We took a hard look at the light on the 100 gallon tank last night and it looks like it's a keeper, once we dial in the optics. It will be replacing a 1 x 250 watt HQI + 4 x 24 watt T5 Giesemann fixture. That's 120 watts vs. 346 for a 226 watt reduction. I tested the 1 - 2 year old MHL bulb for PAR and it was a frighteningly low 30 (not 300) 30" below the light with no water in the tank. This is the one factor that is tipping me in favour of LED, no bulb replacement, colour shift, uniform colour, and no loss of intensity over time. A lot of the LED proponents brag about how much energy it saves, but we only pay $0.12/KWH here in Canada, so the savings isn't as dramatic as it is in California for example. In this application, you would save $8.25 per month in energy costs. A typical T5 or ML fixture would cost half as much as the Orphek so it would normally take five years to pay off, but in this case the Giesemann fixture is actually more expensive. Once you factor in $158.00 per year for new bulbs, it closes the gap significantly. In other words, you save $158.00 per year in bulb costs if you switch from MHL to LED, but you only save $99.00 in energy cost. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in for saving the planet, I'm just pointing out that the greater share of operating cost comes from bulb replacement, not energy.

I will post some pics of the comparison in a few minutes.
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I appreciate your evaluation on this fixture, I'm considering it for the next build, thanks! :)
 
Peter/ Mr.Wilson,

Guys, You may want to try out Aqua Illumination LED. I set up a unit at ORG and it really impressed me. Unfortunately couldn't get a great set-up as I was installing the unit in a tight area but nevertheless it is VERY IMPRESSIVE!

I convince you to go with Profilux a while ago... now take my advice again and check out the Aqua Illumination. With the 60deg optics and 3.8W LED, a great heat sink, you will see that it might very well be the fixture for you.

Peter seems to be set on LED... If I were him I'd be going down that path too. If you want me to bring a unit out for trial I will personally bring one to you. Tom won't mind.. trust me.... he owes me!

Let me know if you are interested.

As it applies to LEDs, there are options short of re-engineering the air handling ducts. One of the biggest benefits of LED lighting is the ability to very efficiently trade PAR for coverage through the use of optics. Orpheck has released very limited information on the LEDs used, nor am I aware of what optics are currently installed. Most LEDs have a native output (prior to the installation of external optics) of ~120 degrees. Simply changing the optics, or removing the lenses entirely would provide a dramatic increase in coverage area albeit at the loss of PAR and potentially perceived brightness.


I agree the AquaIllumination LEDs offers a great solution that addresses some of the current challenges (i.e. no remote ballasts or fans.) They also offer a number of significant advantages over the Orphek including Tri-Color Cree LEDs, full controller integration including individual color dimming for sunrise, sunset and mid-day PAR increased, lunar tables, storm and cloud-cover simulation...) I'm not a big fan of the lightning simulation capabilities, but I do think watching a sunrise/sunset and clouds slowly progress over Peter's tank would be an incredible event.

I'm a big proponent of AI, but they will still pose some challenges on Peters build. The biggest of which may be power output. Each AI unit consists of 24, 3 watt Cree LEDs (slightly under-driven), running at a combined ~70 watts. 40 degree optics are used in the center of each fixture, flanked by 70 degrees along the perimeter. Depending on mounting height, aquascaping, coral placement and tank depth, each AI can cover little more than about a 2'X2' area. Clearly it would take a large number of AIs to properly serve Peter's tank.

I believe Mr. Wilson has been working with AI to evaluate options, including a potential solution for the Mars (err Wilson) bars. It will be interesting to see how that develops.


Tom et al,
A bit of an update is warranted I think. We have been testing and evaluating various LED systems for a while. While they are all different from an architectural standpoint the basics remain the same. Part of what we are encountering in this build is size. Not just from a cost point of view but also I believe from a design perspective. The footprint I have to cover is 24ft by 3ft. If you take the majority of manufacturers they seem to fall into two camps. First are the smaller units with higher par but also large ballasts with associated electronics housed in a separate box. All have fans, some more than others. None of these units take into consideration how impractical the physical housing and power arrangements would be to cover a large tank. Second are the group of very high end units that do cover the larger footprint at an astronomical price but the lighting effectiveness is not as advanced as the smaller units.

In fairness to the manufacturers, I believe the vast majority of aquariums are relatively small in comparison to my footprint so why invest the time and money to create a properly sized unit taking into consideration consolidation of power and heat dissipation into a properly configured platform.

To give Orphek its due none of the other lighting systems we tried could deliver the amount of par that they did, by a significant margin i might add. We asked for more PAR and they delivered. I congratulate them on that achievement. The LEDs themselves were housed in a neat low profile platform that appeared to be well manufactured and aesthetically pleasing, from my point of view.

I seriously question the need for the large ancillary box to house the timers etc as it becomes impractical to use 25 or 30 in a large installation.

The other concern was the light footprint. It pretty well matches the frame of the light housing. Two inches outside that frame and PAR dropped dramatically. To Orphek's credit when asked they suggested that the light be angled to spread the footprint. Since we had in effect more par than we needed the loss in PAR concentration by turning the unit slightly would not interfere with the PAR requirement we established at the outset. However we also had a concern about the visibility of the light itself. Without measuring accurately I would guess the light colour was somewhere in the 12K range which is aesthetically appealing to me. But it was dim to my eyes in comparison to the other lights in the canopy. I cannot comment on what effect multiple units overlapping might have on the result as we had only one light.

I also would like significantly more programming capability than simply controlling timers. There was the ability to use the blue lights to simulate sunrise and sunset but even with Mr. Wilson's efforts to justify this approach I cannot equate blue with sunset and its a fairly hard switchover to boot. There is no dimming. I am looking forward to some of the programming capabilities that AI delivers when we get our hands on the evaluation unit.

One very clear advantage these lights have to a deep tank is the ability I believe to deliver PAR with a well defined footprint to a deep tank (3 to 4ft tank) To that end it probably meets a unique market segment where anything that powerful can't control the footprint the way that Orphek appears to. Again well done.

Peter
 
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As it applies to LEDs, there are options short of re-engineering the air handling ducts. One of the biggest benefits of LED lighting is the ability to very efficiently trade PAR for coverage through the use of optics. Orpheck has released very limited information on the LEDs used, nor am I aware of what optics are currently installed. Most LEDs have a native output (prior to the installation of external optics) of ~120 degrees. Simply changing the optics, or removing the lenses entirely would provide a dramatic increase in coverage area albeit at the loss of PAR and potentially perceived brightness.

First of all I would like to thank Tom for his contributions to this thread with regard to LED and other general subjects. I had the pleasure of spending some time with him at MACNA where he schooled me in a subject I haven't delved into until now - LED lighting. We walked around the floor at MACNA and reviewed the who's who of LED, and trust me there are too many men on the ice in this game :)

I wasn't aware that the default spread of LED was ~120˚. The Orphek unit comes stock with 90˚ optics, but they appear to be more concentrated at the center, perhaps just due to close proximity. The manufacturer has offered me 120˚ frosted optics as an option. Another option may be to space the LEDs more on the Orphek unit and break up the "beam". This could be used in conjunction with removing the optics. Spacing the LEDs more will help increase shimmer, but removing optics will negate the change. The benefit of spacing and reducing the number of LEDs is in cooling as it will make it easier to run without fans. Once again, LED lighting is infamous for overheating and shutting down emitters, so this is an area where you must tread lightly. The Orphek LED is an array of two 2 watt diodes, while most lights on the market are a combination of three one watt Cree or Luxeon diodes. It is possible that the one watt difference can effect operating temperature, but this isn't always the case. Efficiency and wattage are two separate issues.

The Orphek light clearly has room for reduced PAR and it is a fair trade off for better coverage. The issue that remains is perceived brightness as the human eye recognizes high nanometer light in the far red end of the spectrum as "bright", while this light has little value in PAR (light that supplies photosynthetic energy).

I agree the AquaIllumination LEDs offers a great solution that addresses some of the current challenges (i.e. no remote ballasts or fans.) They also offer a number of significant advantages over the Orphek including Tri-Color Cree LEDs, full controller integration including individual color dimming for sunrise, sunset and mid-day PAR increased, lunar tables, storm and cloud-cover simulation...) I'm not a big fan of the lightning simulation capabilities, but I do think watching a sunrise/sunset and clouds slowly progress over Peter's tank would be an incredible event.

I'm a big proponent of AI, but they will still pose some challenges on Peters build. The biggest of which may be power output. Each AI unit consists of 24, 3 watt Cree LEDs (slightly under-driven), running at a combined ~70 watts. 40 degree optics are used in the center of each fixture, flanked by 70 degrees along the perimeter. Depending on mounting height, aquascaping, coral placement and tank depth, each AI can cover little more than about a 2'X2' area. Clearly it would take a large number of AIs to properly serve Peter's tank.

I believe Mr. Wilson has been working with AI to evaluate options, including a potential solution for the Mars (err Wilson) bars. It will be interesting to see how that develops.

The display tank that AI had at MACNA was a 2' cube and it was well illuminated by their Sol fixture without a doubt. The size and dimensions of Peter's tank raise some fundamental challenges in implementing the AI fixtures. The Sol is geared to cover 2' x 2' x 2'. Right away, we need to go two lights wide to cover the space. We came to the conclusion that the Sol Nano is a more cost effective and efficient configuration. Each light has on board touch dimming so each of light can be custom dimmed for colour mixture and intensity at the source instead of having to figure out which one is which on the controller. This is more important than it would initially appear considering it will require 54 (35w) fixtures to adequately cover the tank. That's 54 light to hang, 54 fans to hear, and 54 plugs to daisy chain together.

The Sol Nano is a good match for the Mars tanks because we can customize the lighting in each tank for the corals that it houses. Non-photosynthetic corals can receive dim blue lighting while SPS can get full intensity, and can be slowly acclimated to that point.

One benefit of dimming, beyond the novelty of sunrise and sunset is a slow swing in intensity that replicates that of a natural reef. The shortcoming of that is this assumes that the light is capable of delivering enough light to exceed daily averages. In other words, hit peak PAR levels at noon just like the sun does in nature. You can't start off with a light that barely meets the demand, then dim it down for part of the morning and afternoon.
 
Tom et al,
A bit of an update is warranted I think. We have been testing and evaluating various LED systems for a while. While they are all different from an architectural standpoint the basics remain the same. Part of what we are encountering in this build is size. Not just from a cost point of view but also I believe from a design perspective. The footprint I have to cover is 24ft by 3ft. If you take the majority of manufacturers they seem to fall into two camps. First are the smaller units with higher par but also large ballasts with associated electronics housed in a separate box. All have fans, some more than others. None of these units take into consideration how impractical the physical housing and power arrangements would be to cover a large tank. Second are the group of very high end units that do cover the larger footprint at an astronomical price but the lighting effectiveness is not as advanced as the smaller units.

In fairness to the manufacturers, I believe the vast majority of aquariums are relatively small in comparison to my footprint so why invest the time and money to create a properly sized unit taking into consideration consolidation of power and heat dissipation into a properly configured platform.

To give Orphek its due none of the other lighting systems we tried could deliver the amount of par that they did, by a significant margin i might add. We asked for more PAR and they delivered. I congratulate them on that achievement. The LEDs themselves were housed in a neat low profile platform that appeared to be well manufactured and aesthetically pleasing, from my point of view.

I seriously question the need for the large ancillary box to house the timers etc as it becomes impractical to use 25 or 30 in a large installation.

The other concern was the light footprint. It pretty well matches the frame of the light housing. Two inches outside that frame and PAR dropped dramatically. To Orphek's credit when asked they suggested that the light be angled to spread the footprint. Since we had in effect more par than we needed the loss in PAR concentration by turning the unit slightly would not interfere with the PAR requirement we established at the outset. However we also had a concern about the visibility of the light itself. Without measuring accurately I would guess the light colour was somewhere in the 12K range which is aesthetically appealing to me. But it was dim to my eyes in comparison to the other lights in the canopy. I cannot comment on what effect multiple units overlapping might have on the result as we had only one light.

I also would like significantly more programming capability than simply controlling timers. There was the ability to use the blue lights to simulate sunrise and sunset but even with Mr. Wilson's efforts to justify this approach I cannot equate blue with sunset and its a fairly hard switchover to boot. There is no dimming. I am looking forward to some of the programming capabilities that AI delivers when we get our hands on the evaluation unit.

One very clear advantage these lights have to a deep tank is the ability I believe to deliver PAR with a well defined footprint to a deep tank (3 to 4ft tank) To that end it probably meets a unique market segment where anything that powerful can't control the footprint the way that Orphek appears to. Again well done.

Peter

thanks for the summary Peter, the Orphek fixture is underdriven which should fair well regarding it's diode lifespan, also it's my understanding that dimming shortens diode lifespan which Orphek avoids
 
Here's a shot of the Orphek light over Peter's tank, tipped at a ~40˚ angle. The upper part is 8.5" over the water's surface while the lower portion is... well you do the math :)

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Here you can see the light cascading down the arch at an angle from left to right. The angle minimized the spotlight effect, but isn't as efficient as wider optics in my opinion.

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While angled, the light seems to cover 12-18" wide footprint, compared to the 6-9" footprint when mounted level with the tank.

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Here's an end view from the corner bend in the tank. You can see here that the light now illuminates the full width of the tank, where as it fell more than a few inches short while level. The sand appears white up to the glass, but it's still a little to intense in the middle of the tank.

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This is a closer view. You can see the live rock has a nice natural colour that resembles what you see diving a shallow reef. The overlap of neighbouring lights will eliminate the twilight look on the outer edges.

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Getting closer still, you can see natural shadows that you don't get with T5.

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This isn't the best shot, but the fish colouring is excellent under the LED.

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I don't want to hijack the thread with another tank, but for the purpose of evaluating the light, a smaller tank puts it into perspective as we don't have 5 lights to get a feel for coverage, overlap and spotlighting etc.

This tank had a 250 watt HQI + 4 x 24 watt T5 actinic light by Giesemann. The bulbs are at least a year old, perhaps two as time passes quickly when you buy expensive bulbs :)

You can see in the "before shots" that the MHL/T5 light illuminates the tank nicely. Th ePAR has dropped almost off the map at a mere 30, but the light still has a bright appearance to the human & camera eye. At this point in time I want to remind you that I'm not a professional photographer so the light may appear slightly washed out and brighter than it looks in person. I don't know if this is a white balance issue or something else I'm equally incapable of rectifying :) It is also important to note that the before shots were taken two days earlier when the tank was just being filled so some shots have no water or partially filled.

The Reef Ceramics are brightly illuminated here with the Giesemann fixture. Note no water.

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You can see the sand is glowing white and colours look natural. There is a small moonlight LED strip attached to one side of the light at the back here. It is run on a lunar cycle via a GHL Profiliux controller.

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The light seems to be a perfect match, so why switch it? Well, as part of the testing process for LED technology sometimes you find something that is worth swapping in for a less efficient light. It's hard to say goodbye to a $1,100.00 light but in the long run LED will not only be the wise choice, it will be mandated by big brother to conserve energy. It's too bad this light doesn't have dimming :(

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Do you see the problem with the Orphek? It's a spotlight, leaving a brown ring around a white/blue patch in the centre that looks equally as goofy in real life.

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We tried raising the light and tilting it, but it started to spill light into the room. While coverage was better, it still had a hot spot in the centre.

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The spotlight doesn't look this dramatic in real life but it is clearly delineated and this photo does represent how corals will receive the photosynthetic energy they need.

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The eerie blue colour here is more of a matter of white balance, but it illustrates the coverage. Adding a second light seems like a quick fix, but you are doubling the cost of the task. All of a sudden those $400 MHL pendants look very attractive as it would take years of $8.25 a month electrical savings to cover the extra $1,500.00 equipment cost. We must balance capital cost with operational cost after all. Sorry Al Gore, but money talk and conservation marches slowly :) It looks like one fixture can serve this 30" x 30" x 26" tank well if wider 120˚ frosted optics are used. Time will tell. The low profile sleek look even shows up the sexy German model.

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Okay, this is where it gets weird :beer: :worried2: Once again, mr.wilson needs to learn how to get out of auto-mode. Next time I will try with a flash.

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Okay, last photo... I promise. This is what the kids call an FTS (full tank shot). It's a little blurry, but it most accurately represents what you see in vivo.

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One plus of the current optics is there is virtually no light pollution in the room. There is some uplight as the light is reflected in the water, but it makes a super cool swirly blue light show on the ceiling. I should add it also reduces the electrical cord count from 4 to just one, even though I ended up test hanging the light with the cord sticking out the front.
 
It's hard to imagine the effects you are describing but this image really brings home what it is you are referring to. Thx for taking the time.

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It really sounds like it will take more than just optics to fix the concentration of such powerful light sources. A redesign to spread the lamps further apart really seems to be necessary, along with the improved optics, to gain a better spread.

Dave.M
 
It's hard to imagine the effects you are describing but this image really brings home what it is you are referring to. Thx for taking the time.

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It really sounds like it will take more than just optics to fix the concentration of such powerful light sources. A redesign to spread the lamps further apart really seems to be necessary, along with the improved optics, to gain a better spread.

Dave.M

Yes, that photo incapsulates the Orphek light well. I didn't have the PAR meter with me, but I assume that the PAR on the substrate was 300 in the hot spot, and 50 on the outer margins as it was in Peter's tank.

I'm hoping that a jerry-rigged quick fix of running it with no optics is able to split the difference and dim the hot spot and "brighten the corners" (If I may quote Pavement).

If the light persists to be "too bright" that is the least of our worries. A dimming option would be ideal, but raising the fixture or even using diffused lenses is an option. My concern is that dimming will make it... well... dim for want of a better term :) This light and LED in general for that matter will always appear dim due to our perception of light.

As an aside, I've always liked the look of highlightedmrock work with diminished surroundings. It looks more artistic and keep algae in the coral tissue and off of the viewing panels. It's a more dramatic look that takes the attention away from the outer walls of the aquarium, making it appear larger. You can however push highlighting too far to the point of spotlighting.
 
I'm in the process of planning a build, and I am constantly alternating between the proven (MH, T5) and less proven (LED). This week I was convinced that a good quality Geissman HQI + T5 was the way to go, but now I'm looking forward to your test of the AI units. Sfiligoi now appears to have a dimming option on all of their MH + T5 lights, so that is also complicating my decision.
 
Hi,
we have a big tank too, and we had put 11 T5HO, but we wanted to try the LED
but since our tank is 8 foot x 42 inch x 27 inch (high) it was hard finding the right fixture


we choose this one :






The compagny can make the fixture the size you want and the LED are dimmable manually or with the Profilux controller :)

so our fixture has 332 LED (mixte of blue, white, red and purple )
we ask it to be 8 feet x 22 inch (22 inch is standard... we could have ask for more but well it was getting expensive! )

here's a little video of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzGT--a3iM
 
it's not canadian but from Poland (after seeing the product we got the distribution in canada :) )
the compagny is Reef Republic
 
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This picture is a representation of one of my favorite things about these forums, where else would most of us see something like this? Peter and Mr. Wilson, again thank you for taking the time to educate and inspire us!
Matt
 
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