I've read some anecdotal evidence that CP would work with some corals. Has anyone had any experience using it on a reef tank? I know the majority of the evidence has show it kills algae, which our beloved corals contain. Would like to know from the few people that have tried it.
CP on reef tank
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What anecdotal evidence have you read that CP would work with some corals? Was it from a thread on here?
Deinonych
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http://www.saltcorner.com/Articles/Showarticle.php?articleID=41
"Early experiments with the product showed that while much safer and less toxic than other traditional treatments of the past, it did have a negative effect on alga. Therefore, aquarium alga and invertebrates containing zooxanthellae were at risk, which we witnessed firsthand in some early experiments, where some soft and stony corals perished."
Toxicity to corals is also cited in Bob Goemans' book, The Marine Fish Health & Feeding Handbook. In short, I wouldn't risk it.
Something I feel worth exploring is chloroquin in food however ive noticed in treating as a bath many fish loose appetite or become more finicky eaters, and the stuff tastes like quinine which is not palatable to me anyways. I'd imagin it might work on voracious eaters like big angels or gulping lions/puffers.
Also "mmmmmhmm look at this leftovers they look tasty" - shrimp/crabs
The reason I asked the initial question is because the guys over in the UK, have been mixing the meds with gelatin(jello), and food. They have been getting positive results. They mentioned if the food touched corals, Necrosis would begin, but as long as its not on there, They didn't have issues.
This is from bob Groemans site
Early experiments with the product showed that while much safer and less toxic than other traditional treatments of the past, it did have a negative effect on alga. Therefore, aquarium alga and invertebrates containing zooxanthellae were at risk, which were witnessed firsthand in some early experiments, where some soft and stony corals perished (L. Ichinotsubo, pers. com.). Nevertheless, Richard Terrell of the Pittsburg Zoo Aquarium & PPG Aquarium has reported using chloroquine-dosed gel foods to halt an outbreak of Cryptocaryon in a giant clam exhibit, with excellent results and credits Robyn Doege of the Dallas World Aquarium for providing the information.
Early experiments with the product showed that while much safer and less toxic than other traditional treatments of the past, it did have a negative effect on alga. Therefore, aquarium alga and invertebrates containing zooxanthellae were at risk, which were witnessed firsthand in some early experiments, where some soft and stony corals perished (L. Ichinotsubo, pers. com.). Nevertheless, Richard Terrell of the Pittsburg Zoo Aquarium & PPG Aquarium has reported using chloroquine-dosed gel foods to halt an outbreak of Cryptocaryon in a giant clam exhibit, with excellent results and credits Robyn Doege of the Dallas World Aquarium for providing the information.
Addtional info on the gel method with coral scroll down a bit.
http://www.saltcorner.com/LMAM/ShowChapter.php?ChapterID=21#medicineusage
http://www.saltcorner.com/LMAM/ShowChapter.php?ChapterID=21#medicineusage
In inclined to try it on my undiverse tank. I started out with dry rock, and I only have about 10 small frags in there. My only concern is feeding it will only alleviate the issue only to have it come back because of the cyst stage of ich.
This is another case of fed CP with what seems like success. Unknown if the problem came back.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2049522&page=2
For mature tanks I see no reason to risk it, but I may consider it on mine.
This is another case of fed CP with what seems like success. Unknown if the problem came back.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2049522&page=2
For mature tanks I see no reason to risk it, but I may consider it on mine.
Going to treat my main tank with cp without the corals. At this point I don't have a large enough qt to house all the fish I have moving 10 of them from a 155 to a 29 is asking for trouble. I've read enough about cp to take the chance. Looks like biofilter and microfauna is left in tact. For the people that mentioned it nukes it can you point me in the right direction?
going to move the coral all out this week and treat main. How long do you all recommend I treat for? I think I read 37 days for cyst stage so I imagine about 40 days or so treating?
going to move the coral all out this week and treat main. How long do you all recommend I treat for? I think I read 37 days for cyst stage so I imagine about 40 days or so treating?
Alberta-newb
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I decided this week to try it on one of my 90s for similar reasons (not enough QT space for everything). This is a complete system I recently purchased from someone shutting down. No corals, just LR with plenty of algae and some aiptaisia. Fish are blue tang, copperband, pair of clowns and a yellow tail damsel. The tang had visible ich and spent 2 weeks at 80mg/gal in a 25 gal QT. I returned it back to the 90 as it wasn't doing well in such a small QT.
The 90 was treated at 40mg/g 2 days ago. So far this is what is happening:
Fish all doing well, no re-occurrence of ich on the tang so far.
I have kept the skimmer on line, it went crazy for first 24 hours and removed a considerable amount of dark skimate.
Water has noticeable improved clarity as most green/brown algaes died within 24 hrs.
No aiptaisia visible
Coralline algae remains unaffected so far.
This tank will remain as a QT system for future new arrivals and the live rock will not be transferred to my main so I'm not concerned about residual CP. Will be interesting to see how long it remains algae free and if any micro fauna has survived (never saw worms of pods in this tank before).
The 90 was treated at 40mg/g 2 days ago. So far this is what is happening:
Fish all doing well, no re-occurrence of ich on the tang so far.
I have kept the skimmer on line, it went crazy for first 24 hours and removed a considerable amount of dark skimate.
Water has noticeable improved clarity as most green/brown algaes died within 24 hrs.
No aiptaisia visible
Coralline algae remains unaffected so far.
This tank will remain as a QT system for future new arrivals and the live rock will not be transferred to my main so I'm not concerned about residual CP. Will be interesting to see how long it remains algae free and if any micro fauna has survived (never saw worms of pods in this tank before).
