Cupramine

[scuzy]

I need some help here guys. I have a pair of Flame wrasse and a powder blue tang, yellow tang in a 55 gallon QT tank. I started the got to the 0.5mg/l mark and my male Flame wrasse didn't handle it too well started to float on top corner of ank grasping for air. I since have put in cuprisorb and carbon to remove the copper from water and he's back to his old self swimming around this morning. I want to redose cupramine since my tang has ich on him. How should i go aobut in doing this? Should i slowly ramp up the dose and instead of going to 0.5 hit the 0.4 mark?

any advice would be great. The female flame handle the 0.5 dose well as well as the other fishes. Just the male flame wasn't his old self of swimming around the tank.

 

[MrTuskfish]

I run into a fish every once in a while that doesn't do well with copper. Cuprisorb is effective at a lower dose; but I lengthen QT time when I drop Cupramine to .3 or .4. SeaChem has outstanding tech support; I'd give them a call. (888-SEACHEM) They'll be happy to help.

 

[scuzy]

well i removed all the coper wiith cuprisorb and carbon last night and redosed at 0.2mg/l for first dose and will redose in 48 hours to get to 0.4mg/l. The flame is handling the 0.2 dose well so far will check in the next 2 days if i should double up to half up.

 

[WienerDog]

I had the same situation just recently. I increased the cup levels over a 3 day period. That is when my count down started. Hope it may be of assistance to you.

 

[scuzy]

thanks for the info. I'm going to slowly up the dose over a few days to let him adjust slowly.

 

[lhm nole]

thanks for the info. I'm going to slowly up the dose over a few days to let him adjust slowly.

Just be careful when using the seachem test kit you want to read it at its darkest point and that may take up to a minute or so I was going by the 30 to 45 second rule and end up adding way too much copper.... And yes I have spoke to seachem and they have confirmed this.For some reason I was not getting a reading until after the 1 minute mark then it would turn blue

 

[geaux xman]

you guys like the seachem copper test kit? i've read good and bad things about them.

i overdosed some fish with cupramine b/c i think my salifert test kit was probably expired. i didnt have the container box so i dont know for sure. but my old kit was reading about .25 and my new kit tested around .8ppm. i didnt test with the new kit til after the fish died.

 

[rinconmike]

I like the red sea kit better. Seachem site notes it as a kit that will work.

The seachem kit is hard to read for me. Seachem tech support once told me you should read it within 30 seconds.

What I do is test the water and reference test at the same time and monitor both at 30 and 60 seconds.

I have gone through a few kits so I have two stirring rods and try to do both simultaneously.

Also, testing copper in a qt with only some PVC is much easier than a tank with sand. I have found in the qt the rcommended dose is pretty accurate.

 

[scuzy]

so far my seachem kit is pretty accurate compare to the reference solution. The fishes are handling the 0.2mg/l dose right now. If all goes well by tomorrow night I will dose the 2nd to get to the 0.4mg/l mark. My supermale Flame wrasse didn't handle the 0.5mg/l dose earlier in the week.

 

[MrTuskfish]

I prefer the SeaChem kit, its made by the same company as Cupramine, so I guess that makes sense. Rnconmike is right, SeaChem says either works. I just got used to the SC kit, I have a terrible time reading some test kits, for some reason, and the SC is easy for me.

 

[scuzy]

A lot of the ich fell off the powder brown tang so i hope to get the dose up so it doesn't reattach to the other fishes in QT.

 

[MrTuskfish]

A lot of the ich fell off the powder brown tang so i hope to get the dose up so it doesn't reattach to the other fishes in QT.

You can't see ich, its buried under the skin. the white spot isn't the parasite. If all the spots are gone, most of it is in a dormant stage and can't be killed, When the cysts hatch and turn into hundreds of free-swimming parasites---that's hen they will be killed by the copper. You probably will see spots on other fish, but constant exposure to the prescribed amount of copper for the duration will get it all.

 

[scuzy]

Sad the Supermale Flame didn't handle the copper and died when i got home from work. The female still doing great eating everything. Bummer kinda depressed now. He was a great looking male too.