Die-Off

Slatts

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Do you guys remove the die-off from your rock? I haven't and I had a pretty constant ammonia level of 1 with water changes once and sometimes twice a day. Plus I have the red sea test kit which I've read isn't so good.
 
i removed a couple of dead sponges, other than that just let the crabs do their work. What kind of water are you using for water changes?
 
ro/di water. I haven't seen any crabs so far just some black snalis. About 5 crabs jumped when I had the rock out so I didn't put them in the tank.
 
I was just thinking that maybe it was some latent ammonia from your water. I would think that the bacteria would reduce even a large amount in a day or two.
 
It's only been 4 days but I did about 25% change last night and I tested an hour later and it was still at 1ppm. Strange??
 
Hey Slatts. Mine was the same way for a long time I kept doing the water changes and the tests kept coming out at about 1 ppm. My recommendation is to get the water retested and keep up on the changes. My ammonia yesterday read at .25 and today back up at .75. I am doing a water change in the morning (15%) and taking the water in to be tested.
 
Thanks Splach - Everything seems fine in the tank. I guess it's just that I see others who don't seem to get any spikes at all. It's good to know I'm not alone. I tested my makeup water and it was zero so I know it's not that. I'll just keep do water changes and wait it out. Patience is a virtue. Whatever the heck that means.
 
Patience is a pain in the rear. i reviewed my notes last night. My ammonia hovered around one for 4 days and then dropped to 0 in two days. I only did one 15 gal water cahnge on my tank at three days. the second half of my shipment caused an ammonia spike one day later at 0.5, no water change and it was 0 in three days. nitrates remain constant at 0.25. I'm due for tests tonight as I've been out of town for five days. Good luck and keep us posted

Rob
 
I had loads of dead sponges, and found a steak knife worked well peeling them off. Some of them were very large and some were buried in holes in the rock and impossible to get to. Ammonia spiked to .1 several days after the first shipment arrived. I went a little crazy and was doing massive water changes for a few days. After about three days ammonia started going down and nitrrites started going up. Then several days later everything leveled off.
So far as I know the only things I lost were a few sponges. Some of the coral bleached but came back. I have tons of different types of crabs, shrimp, still have sponges, coralline, coral, molluscs and even a Tiger Goby. Lots of stuff is growing back.

Just got my second shipment last friday. A few sponges are dying but no measurable difference in ammonia, nitrate or nitrite. :)

I did a 10% water change today just for fun but levels are still holding.
 
I had loads of dead sponges, and found a steak knife worked well peeling them off. Some of them were very large and some were buried in holes in the rock and impossible to get to. Ammonia spiked to 1ppm several days after the first shipment arrived. I went a little crazy and was doing massive water changes for a few days. After about three days ammonia started going down and nitrites started going up. Then several days later everything leveled off.
So far as I know the only things I lost were a few sponges. Some of the coral bleached but came back. I have tons of different types of crabs, shrimp, still have sponges, coralline, coral, molluscs and even a Tiger Goby. Lots of stuff is growing back.

Just got my second shipment last friday. A few sponges are dying but no measurable difference in ammonia, nitrate or nitrite. :)

I did a 10% water change today just for fun but levels are still holding.
 
I was reading in Tullock's Natural Reef Aquariums that some sponges infiltrate (or bore) into the rock. If you had some sponge die-off, even if the exterior bits were removed (by yourself or consumed by crabs, etc.) you could still have a few days of the sponge left in the rock converting to a non-ammonia producing state, producing a fairly constant low level ammonia spike IMHO. That might be a (the?) source.
 
Basically, when you know something is dead or on it's way out, you should remove it. Part of the cycling is helped by die-off, but if you let it go too far the die-off will cause more die-off, which will cause more die-off, etc... IMO, it is good advice by TBS to do water changes during cycling with their rock to keep things alive (it is common for recommendations of not changing water during cycling, but that's when there isn't much of anything to loose).

As far as the turkey wings and the rock oysters go, I have lost very few after a year. I lost pretty much all of the tunicates, but after starting to use DTs they have started to come back. If I did it again, I'd give DTs a try sooner.
 
Thanks everyone, I've been doing water changes at 10-15% everyday and about 25% after day 4. Today is day 7 and after testing this morning it seems to be coming down to about .75. Hopefully the corner has been turned. Hey MX what is DTs?
Thanks
 
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