difference in polarizer filters?

[t5Nitro]

I'm going to purchase a circular polarizer from B + W. On bhphoto they have them ranging from 111$ to 192$. which do I want?

 

[BlueCorn]

The best that you can afford. Same answer as on your thread 4 days ago.

 

[t5Nitro]

My thread 4 days ago I didn't ask which of the multiple filters because I didn't know they made many of them. If I asked then I have short term memory and forgot.
Thanks beerguy.

 

[BlueCorn]

lol

You need a circular polarizer, not a linear one. Linear polarizers will mess with your camera metering. Also avoid the "Slim" filters. They don't have external threads so you can't use a lens cap.

 

[t5Nitro]

I know to use a circular but I meant for $111 you get a standard filter and for $189 you get a kaeseman mulicoat or whatever. Why is that one so much better? Worth the extra money?

 

[this is me]

I use B&W cp filters. You want the multi coat. Thin mount is helpful to avoid vignette when you're shooting wide. But you cannot mount anything in the front including a lens cap. I use the thin one because I use cp when I'm shooting landscape and I shoot wide. CP should be the last filter to be on your lens so not having to be able to put anything in the front is not a problem. But you have to be more careful because you can not protect it with a lens cap.

And of course, make you have the right filter size for the lens.
Hope that helps.

Nick

 

[this is me]

Wide is 24mm or less on full frame.

 

[t5Nitro]

I think I'll probably do the non slim one because I'd like to put a lens cap on. W
Is the multiple coating just to get better color?

 

[BlueCorn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15203837#post15203837 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by this is me
CP should be the last filter to be on your lens so not having to be able to put anything in the front is not a problem.

If you weren't trying to stack filters you wouldn't need the slim filter.

The CP should be the ONLY filter on the lens. I shoot almost nothing but landscape and am often at 17mm (full frame). Vignetting isn't a problem and I can use my lens cap just fine.

 

[BlueCorn]

Multi-coating helps with flare. It has some drawbacks in that it makes the filter less durable and a little harder to clean.

 

[this is me]

I disagree!
It depends on what you're shooting. A ND, and CP combination is great for landscape that have flowing water.

If CP should be the ONLY filer on the lens, then nobody would want this.....There's a waiting line for it.
http://www.singh-ray.com/varinduo.html

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204099#post15204099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy


The CP should be the ONLY filter on the lens.

 

[t5Nitro]

Beerguy, are you using the multicoat or the standard then? Would a lens hood work just as well for cutting flare? The only reason I ask is because the difference in money is pretty big. I have no problem buying the more expensive multicoat one though.

Thanks again. After this post I can order.

Nick, you have a good point but for now I think I only want to use one filter. Still should be way better than the lens itself (I hope).

 

[BlueCorn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204198#post15204198 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by this is me
I disagree!
It depends on what you're shooting. A ND, and CP combination is great for landscape that have flowing water.

If CP should be the ONLY filer on the lens, then nobody would want this.....There's a waiting line for it.
http://www.singh-ray.com/varinduo.html

Folks want that because stacking filters is a bad idea. You just made my point.

 

[this is me]

Hahhaa. Yeah I just made your point that the ONLY filter on the lens should be the CP.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204218#post15204218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by beerguy
Folks want that because stacking filters is a bad idea. You just made my point.

 

[BlueCorn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204207#post15204207 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by t5Nitro
Beerguy, are you using the multicoat or the standard then? Would a lens hood work just as well for cutting flare? The only reason I ask is because the difference in money is pretty big. I have no problem buying the more expensive multicoat one though.

Thanks again. After this post I can order.

I use the standard because it's more durable but have owned both. Using a lens hood with a polarizer is a real hassle because it makes it almost impossible to adjust the polarizer properly. Either one will do you just fine.

 

[BlueCorn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204222#post15204222 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by this is me
Hahhaa. Yeah I just made your point that the ONLY filter on the lens should be the CP.

I was using your example, which was with a CP. Using more than one threaded filter, of any variety, isn't recommended by anyone that I know. I do, occasionally stack filters but that's using 4 x 6s in front of the lens.

 

[t5Nitro]

Sorry, one more question haha. I really like the shots you're getting of the flowing water that appear like clouds, beerguy. To do this get a neutral density but what strength should I get if I'm only going to buy one? Also any brand preference on the ND's?

 

[BlueCorn]

I do have a 10stop that I play with some times but I don't actually have a shot using it on my site. I generally just stop down. If necessary, sometimes I'll also go down to ISO 50. That + the polarizer is generally plenty.

How slow the shutter speed needs to be depends on how fast the water is moving and how wide the shot is.

 

[xtm]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15204207#post15204207 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by t5Nitro
Would a lens hood work just as well for cutting flare?

Yes but only to some degree. Some lenses have more propensity to flare and ghosting. The multicoated filters can help cut it down, but the best thing you could do it not shoot against the sun.

 

[OneReef]

So is the $10.99 Polarizing filter at Best Buy not even good for messing round with pics for a novice like myself?