Dinos?

[Newguy76]

So I'm 12 days into my cycle and I have an outbreak of what I believe is Dino's. I know the tank will go through a lot of the uglies for quite some time. That's not the issue at hand. My question is should I begin to fight them or let it run for awhile. There are 100000 different ways (non really proven for every situation) to fight them. 1 being increase the bio diversity of the tank by adding things to out compete. Also black out periods turning off the skimmer ect. Ect. I'm just curious on what your thoughts are. I really don't want to wipe out the tank and start over again. I'd rather fight it if it comes to that.

Any suggestions would be great.
Temp 79
Sg 1.027

2x rw 15
2x jebao 1200gph
Dc 15000 return with 2 return lines it runs at 60%




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[Bent]

Chances are it's just plain algae.

 

[Dogshowgrl]

Looks like dinos. I don't wish that plague on anyone. Try a three day black out unwrap for a day feed well and then another 3 day black out. If the tank is has little life in it this is the best time to try the blackout meathod imo. I would fight them now. I have done both let it play out and treated aggressive. When they get to more than the quarter size spot, I found out quickly, it's time to fight.

 

[Bent]

If you are just cycling the tank, it's probably just algae. You don't need the lights anyway during the initial cycle and it just encourages algae growth.

 

[Newguy76]

I've read it both ways about lights on during cycle and off. Same with the skimmer. So I went with lights on the schedule I planned on using once I get to the point where I can add coral so everything is already used to the light. In my mind I felt if I was going to have algae caused by lighting is rather figure it out now instead of later when it's populated with creatures. Anyone think I should start running a media reactor. I also threw on a canister with a uv light on for a few days. With Polly only inside.

 

[Newguy76]

Anyone else any suggestions?

 

[Bent]

Dude I'm telling you it's not dinos.

1: I'm highly suspect that dinoflagellates, which are a protean, could survive the tanks initial cycle.

2: if you are cycling this tank with dry rock, there's no way that the organism could have made it into the tank in the first place.

It's just a normal algae bloom. Kill the lights, they aren't needed during the initial cycle, nor is the skimmer for that matter. They will run their course brah.

 

[Newguy76]

Ok. Just FYI im cycling with 100lbs of dry and 70lbs of live rock. It's just miserable looking but I'll give it more time. I guess my next question would be should I blow it off and remove it from the easier places or just let it go?

 

[gallegos]

Suck it out of you can but I agree just part of cycling

 

[Newguy76]

Ok thanks everyone for your help and input. I'll update in a week or 2

 

[Bent]

Ok thanks everyone for your help and input. I'll update in a week or 2

My last post sounded pushy. Sorry bout that.

 

[Newguy76]

No offense taken I do appreciate your suggestions

 

[Newguy76]

So I turned off all powerheads to syphon some of this off. Now here's a look at the powerheads. You can't see this unless I turn them off.

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[Newguy76]

Ands it's not green it's brown


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[StrangeDejavu]

Sure looks like dinos to me. I was on the fence about diatoms vs. cyano vs. algae, couldn't figure out what it was until I discovered a thread on here by "sonnus". He discovered a simple way to ID them without a microscope, which you can find here. I siphoned mine out into a water bottle with a lid and shook vigorously for 30 seconds, then poured the water through both a paper towel and a coffee filter. I then placed the "filtered" tank water on top of my tank near the light. Within 5 minutes, I saw the first picture. After 10 - 15, I was left with the second picture. Dinos without a doubt.

 

[Newguy76]

I read that as well already. I am in the process of trying it today. Right now it's in a clear bowl on top of my tank.

 

[Newguy76]

Pic 1 is after syphon and mixing

Pic 2 is through the paper towel

Pic 3 is after paper towel

20 minutes later



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[Newguy76]

Black out here I come. A question for those who know about this plague, after the black out period best case scenario is they are gone, what stops them from coming back when lights are back on?

 

[StrangeDejavu]

Black out here I come. A question for those who know about this plague, after the black out period best case scenario is they are gone, what stops them from coming back when lights are back on?

I'm about to start my blackout as well so I can't speak from experience yet, but this is my plan. I turned off my skimmer and removed the GFO. I plan on doing a WC and manually removing as much Dinos as I can see. Also plan on adding twice the recommended amount of carbon for the coming blackout. I've also been dosing Microbacter7 (5mL per 25g) every day since Thursday. I will continue dosing it every day for the next 2 weeks. I also ordered the 3,000+ copepods and phyto combo from AlgaeBarn. The day of the blackout, i'll be dumping in all the copepods and do a double dose of phyto. Every day there after, for the following 2 weeks, i'll be dosing MB7 and phyto. Once the blackout is finished, i'll be running moonlights only (blues at about 3 - 5%) for a few days. If i'm feeling good about the progress, then i'll eventually introduce 1 hour of full light for a few days. If all still looks good, i'm going to add an additional hour, so on and so forth. I have no coral yet so I feel like now's my chance to do what I can with blacking out. Good luck and be sure to detail your fight in the Dino thread in the Reef Chemistry forum.

 

[Bent]

I don't think the invasive dinos that plague us are photosynthetic, but I could be wrong about that.