DIY Wavebox Tutorial from start to finish!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12751498#post12751498 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoReefWanabe
so this can only be done with tunze power heads? will it work with seio's?

and also you need a controller for the power head aswell?

the list is then a PH, a controller (7091?), and your DIY controller, and the scrap acrylic..

i am thinking this is too big and ambitious a project for my 20G tank..:(:(

i did however stumble across a 6055 for $200 brand new..
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No i cant see it working with a Seio as there is no driver for the seio so it would be quiet allot more complicated to creat...
 
congrats on TOTM... wait wat?? LOL congrats

I just bought used WB, i am using an aquasurf to control it. just a few tricks i used.

I did the EOSM mod on the 6261

i am using different timing on the pump on and pump off duration.

i am using this code:

Pmp OSC 11/08/00 for PF2

which is 1.1 seconds off and 0.8 seconds on, the wave box is resonating so that the "fill cycle" is just cresting when the pump comes back on. I am achieving a ~2" wave in my 180, funny thing, looks like in the day when my toroid (mounted near my ballasts and chiller) is warmer, I get less wave

HTH
 
Congrats XTM!

JCTewks - Hypertech said that this would be possible with a few changes to the circuit. Might make something similar for my second 6100 that's now in the tank. If that project goes through, I'll definitely post pictures of the process.

five.five six - I was actually wondering if the Tunze wavebox controller was able to control how long it was on/off separately rather than just 1 sec. on, 1 sec. off. If one could control how long each period was individually, then you should be able to generate a larger wave since you can push more water out at a faster rate if you allow it to fill longer. For me, I wasn't able to run the 6100 at 100% using the right frequency because it would clear the box too quickly. Either way, you'll get a wave, but having more control would be nice.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13100511#post13100511 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zibba
Congrats XTM!

JCTewks - Hypertech said that this would be possible with a few changes to the circuit. Might make something similar for my second 6100 that's now in the tank. If that project goes through, I'll definitely post pictures of the process.

five.five six - I was actually wondering if the Tunze wavebox controller was able to control how long it was on/off separately rather than just 1 sec. on, 1 sec. off. If one could control how long each period was individually, then you should be able to generate a larger wave since you can push more water out at a faster rate if you allow it to fill longer. For me, I wasn't able to run the 6100 at 100% using the right frequency because it would clear the box too quickly. Either way, you'll get a wave, but having more control would be nice.
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Just let me know what you are thinking for the next one. We could certainly make all three settings adjustable - the 'off' amplitude, the off time and the on time.
 
Maybe this was here and I missed it, but is there a way to get the pump to "ramp up" and not just go off/on?

My thinking is that if it could increase it's speed gradually for, say, 1/2 a second, that it would make a more fluid (no pun intended) movement?

I have NO idea how practical that is however, IMO, at least conceptually, it's worth asking about.

???
 
You sure can but it would take some messing around with to find a value that the pump might be happy with. We tried triangle waves and the pump didn't seem to like them with such a short pulse duration.

A simple RC filter on the output line would do just what you are talking about.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13100511#post13100511 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zibba

five.five six - I was actually wondering if the Tunze wavebox controller was able to control how long it was on/off separately rather than just 1 sec. on, 1 sec. off. If one could control how long each period was individually, then you should be able to generate a larger wave since you can push more water out at a faster rate if you allow it to fill longer. For me, I wasn't able to run the 6100 at 100% using the right frequency because it would clear the box too quickly. Either way, you'll get a wave, but having more control would be nice.
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according to Roger, the on and of periods are the same, I got good results tweaking that a bit, when the box is full, the pump moves water faster
 
Have to admit this is a great thread giving plenty of food for thought!

I am planning a nano version for my 60ltr but cant afford the (well dont want to buy!) a tunze!

i have therefore got a hydor 12v nano! i was planning to use a low voltage 12vac lighting unit to power it but mine dsoes not work on 12vac and works fine on 12vdc!

i dont know if they are supplying America with the Ac versions or what! quite bizarre!

levi
 
anyone ever thry

anyone ever thry

anyone ever try this with a large reef tank? 200 or bigger? what size tunze do you guys recommend? will it even be worth it to make for a tank that size? i have a 240
 
If you don't use the wave box, where to place the Tunze 6100? It's not clear to me how turning it on and off would create a wave.

Thanks.
 
Will a wavebox work on a 3' tank?
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I purchased the wave box for my new 150 cube by marineland, it didnt pulse fast enough to work on my 3' cube tank. I did not use aquasurf or build the controller that Xtm showed. Im sure with either one that you could make something work. I was going to have to build one but I metioned that the box wasnt working on my tank and they took it back ( i was floored about that actually) and got a 6101 in its place.

Also just fyi for everyone, even though if you disconnect the wb controller you can use the wb as a "powerhead"... the 6210.0 pump that is on the wave box is not rated for continuious duty and says so in big letters on the pump housing!!! The propeller assembly is a little different than a 6200 as well. I just think that a regular 6200 is more versatile than the wave box is. And you can connect the controller that comes with the wave box into any tunze and use that to controll the powerhead into a wb, im not sure if you can order the controller seperate either but i would think you could. - but then you can always build XTMs little black box too.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13120217#post13120217 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ray3mont
If you don't use the wave box, where to place the Tunze 6100? It's not clear to me how turning it on and off would create a wave.

Thanks.
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The pump pushes water out of the wb cavity, then when the pump shuts off the water fills the cavity again.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
Captain Quirk,

On 8/4/08 @ 5:17PM, zibba posted that they didn't use the wavebox.
Your response references pushing water of the wb cavity. Therefore, I am assuming wb stands the wave box. So unless I am missing something, my question still stands, how the tunze 6100 create a wave without the wave box?
 
You wont be able to create a smooth wave without the box but still can get a decent wave if you pulse the pump on and off fast enough.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13121780#post13121780 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ray3mont
Captain Quirk,

On 8/4/08 @ 5:17PM, zibba posted that they didn't use the wavebox.
Your response references pushing water of the wb cavity. Therefore, I am assuming wb stands the wave box. So unless I am missing something, my question still stands, how the tunze 6100 create a wave without the wave box?
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*smacks forehead*

Sorry, I spaced the part that said "if you don't use the wavebox".

More proof that I should probably not interact with others until at LEAST noon...

But yes, you can pulse it and get *some* wave action, however nowhere near what an enclosed cavity would get you... IMO.
 
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