Dussumeiri
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Just wanted to hear your experience. According to Seachem you can. Thanks!
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Do you leave skimmer on with Cupramine?
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MrTuskfish
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I think SeaChem tech support is great, but I see no reason to use a skimmer in QT in the first place.
The skimmer will only remove copper in proportion to the amount of liquid collected - so it is minimal. If you remove a cup of skimmate from a 50 gallon tank, you'll remove 1/800 of the copper dose. I've routinely used skimmers on FO tanks with copper and never had any issues.
Bill
Bill
Agreed.
MrTuskfish
Team RC
I agree too. I just assume this is a QT and skimmers aren't used often there.
Dussumeiri
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Thank you for all the reply! Im actually treating my 500 gallon FOWLR. I quarantine all my fish at least 6 weeks before introducing them on the display but still had ich issue. Since its a FOWLR I decided to do treatment on the display. I know the live rocks would absorb a lot of Cupramine but Im not sure about the skimmer. I leave it off for an hour when adjusting dose then turn back on again.
Im using both Salifert and Seachem for testing copper level. I take the 20 minutes reading on the Salifert. Any advice is appreciated.
Im using both Salifert and Seachem for testing copper level. I take the 20 minutes reading on the Salifert. Any advice is appreciated.
MrTuskfish
Team RC
Cupramine has such a wide range between 'effective" and "deadly to fish", that you have a little room for error with the testing. But, because of the LR, you never really know how much copper is in the water column, so frequent testing is needed. I really prefer the SeaChem test kit; its made by the same mfg as the Cupramine and that seems to make sense to me. Cupramine won't kill much of your bio-filter, but every invert in the tank will go, so keep an eye on ammonia. Although I don't think you'll have a problem in a large tank. SeaChem has great tech support, use them. Here's some good poop on Cupramine from their improved web site: http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/Cupramine.html
lhm nole
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I have a 400 fowlr system that I treated with cupramine and it was a pain it took me a week to get a constant .5 and yes I did leave my skimmer off I had a slight ammonia spike but went away in a few days and the blue legs I forget to get out lived through the whole treatment. I used 5 100ml bottles to maintain .5 .
Even the shrimps in my sump lived. After the 4 week treatment everything look good and after removing the copper which took 2 weeks and lots of water changes the ich came back with no new additions of any kind.
So long story short I went on to do this process 2 more times and to no avail ich kept coming back.My belief is that that the live rock can protect them from the cupramine longer the 4 week period and you have to go longer to eradicate it.
I finally had enough so went the hypo way and have been ich free every since.
Yes I was also in constant contact with Seachem about this even had a few mishaps with the testing kit to where the reading was off and had over 1.0 parts copper in tanks at times, do not want to go into further detail .
But seachem will be changing the wording on the test kits in the near future So imo in a fowlr system I would do hypo again over cupramine 10/10 times .I have spent a lot of time and money trying different things out , if you need help feel free to drop me a pm and we can talk.
gentledental4u
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what is hypo?
Tanthaitrung
New member
Hyposalinity (hypo) is a method to cure ich. You can see here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1992196
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1992196
