DSB in a bucket for nitrate control

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11493096#post11493096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
If you have aragonite sand (which is preferred), it will, over time buffer your water by dissolving. I seem to recall the half life is 18 months. In my case, I have a full 11 inches of sand.
k so to clarify if I use aragonite sand I won't have to change sand because it will dissolve on its own?? I just need to keep adding sand ?? Clarify aragonite is this brand or type ? ASIC aragonite live sand that will disolve?
 
Aragonite is not a brand but a material. Some brands imply usage of aragonite. It will dissolve over time but you have to be careful adding new sand as there are aerobic layers in a deep sand bed.

Also, you want to use very fine sand that looks like sugar.
 
Hi guys i've read the first 20 pages of this thread and about page 18 is where most people stopped reading and started asking the same things over and over so forgive me i had to skip to the end.

Would there be a problem with the bucket being under pressure? I'm thinking about using a reef crystals salt bucket under my sump. I'm thinking of taking off from my return pump then through the bucket and emptying back into the sump which would be about 3 feet above the bucket.
 
Markush:

My glass carboy RDSB was sealed and under pressure, also located below the feed/drain point, for the entire 2 years i had it running. As long as your seal is good, it shouldn't be a problem. I ran a MJ900 or 1200 into 3/8 tubing through a rubber plug, then 3/8 tubing out again, and had good flow.
 
It is an interesting thread and the questions tend to get recycled and re-answered. I have two of them and they work well but I have them in conjunction with refugia.
 
I am having problems with flushing noises. How are you guys plumbing the RDSB to prevent this?

Are the buckets sealed to prevent air from getting in?
 
So I am go t on a limb and say that since the pelletized limestone is not available from HD until spring that I probably DON'T want to use the powder form that is also known as calcium hydroxide... it has the consistency of flower. Perhaps this would be a good kalkwasser substitute? HD said that they will get the pelletized limestone in the brown bag in April.. in the meantime I did see a white sand product called Pool filter sand made by a company called PaveStone. .. this appears to be primarily silica? is that okay? does anyone use this or not use it and why?
 
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flushing noises? that must be because the outlet bulkhead is probably the same size as the inlet and the flow is such that it's going to become submerged at times, and then it will gurgle when it drains a bit more. I'd say reduce flow or get a bigger bulkhead/piping for the outlet.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11551451#post11551451 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kinetic
flushing noises? that must be because the outlet bulkhead is probably the same size as the inlet and the flow is such that it's going to become submerged at times, and then it will gurgle when it drains a bit more. I'd say reduce flow or get a bigger bulkhead/piping for the outlet.

Yup, seems like a 1" could handle 300gph?
 
not exactly handle, but be big enough to not be submerged.

think of it just like a drain from a tank display to a sump. Either the drain water doesn't completely submerge the bulkhead opening, or else a standpipe of some sort is needed to keep it quiet.

my bucket when the cover isn't on, it does a little gurgling now and then, but with the bucket covered, I can't hear it at all.
 
HI
ok i read through the first dozen pages,and from what i got i can basically run a line off my over flow and into a bucket full of sand ind it will cut down my nitrates.That was in 05 :) just wondering if there was any major updates that i missed in the other 125 pages.I mean this seems pretty stright forward but thoiught id ask anyways.I read people talking about play sand from home depot they dont carry that anymore,is there somther type of homedepot sand that people are using?
thank you
 
Read the first 20 pages, and basiclly, got the idea.

I'm thinking of setting up one where the sand bed is 18 inches deep, and the sand grain size is suger fine.

Sounds OK, or too deep???
 
I've had one up and running for about 6 days now..too soon to know if it will work for me. But i do have to say it cost me way more then the $10 AC was saying it would cost back in 05.

I had the MJ1200 laying around so i won't add that in.

I used an old RC salt bucket (side note...I was thinking the rubber seal on this bucket would allow me to run it under my sump with about 3 foot of head pressure...it's not a true rubber o-ring just a foam rubber gasket and i couldn't get it to hold the pressure :rolleye1: ) Free

I didn't want to go with a silica based sand so i went with Aragamax sugar sized aragonite...$24.00/30lb bag x 2

Two 1/2" uni-seals $1.50 x 2

10 FT of 1/2"id reinforced pvc $9.00

6 ft of 1/2in rigid pvc $3.50

1/2" ball valve and fittings to connect the rigid and flexible pvc $5.00

Grand total not counting the pump was roughly $65.00

Granted i could have saved about 40 bucks if i used regular ol playsand but then i would have had to add in the cost of the MJ pump to get my point across which is...that this project, just like everything else in this hobby, turned out to be waaay more expensive then i had planned!
 
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markush: I agree with you, my total was somewhere around $80 after everything.

I had to get a square bucket shipped from USP, bulkheads with barbs, two sand bags + some spare, vinyl tubing, and a bit of gruntwork =)
 
just did mine today spent about 30.00 sand, waste paper basket,didnt have room for 5 gallon bucket,and pvc.I just teed off my overflow.Not the best setup but better than none at all.
 
Just finished mine. :)

70kg of suger fine sand, 18 inches deep sand, 6 inches water at top.

Water is gravity fed.

Total cost = RM300 (Malaysia) or USD90
 
I've had a 55G RDSB setup for 8 months and am experiencing nitrate issues now. I'm not sure if the DSB is working. It's a 2.5' sandbed using quickrete sand of mixed grain size.

500G water volume in the system w/ a 240G reef display - 8mo old.
 
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