Dwarf angels in reef tank

[Sheol]

That is a good posting. It depends on what you value. If you have a 1000+ dollars of Acans & Aussie Scolys, forget any Angelfish of any type ( Even Genicanthus are no longer entirely unblemished). If you want a more naturalistic or a fish-centered tank, go for the Angel. That simple.
But no promises, no guarantees here! Besides "Reef Safe" is a mythological concept. It doesn't exist IME.

Matthew

 

[Automatt]

Ya i hear ya on the reef safe being a myth. Everything in nature has its own personalityt and will do what ever they please. Angels are a deff risk but sometimes they are worth it and you have a fun, colorful fish other times they are a terror and you have to find them a new home. Good thing all the stores around me know me and are usually willing to adopt a fish and trade.

 

[Wolverine]

88.5% safe according to the data I collected.

Interesting project: just curious, what was the source of the data?
If it was polls or going through threads, the big confounding factor would be the tendency of people to not talk about things that aren't successful. The second potential confounder (no matter the source) would be the length of time a fish has been in a given tank. I've seen some flames and coral beauties, for example, that have been fine for 4 or 5 years, and then develop a taste for coral. If you catch those people at year 2, the fish will be labelled as safe.

 

[Automatt]

If you go back to the original threat about it. he even says its just what people have said any were willing to talk about. I don't see why anyone would keep from being honest. Some people have luck some haven't its not like they are tryin to put a tang in a 10 gallon in which they will get ridiculed for it.

 

[LobsterOfJustice]

Interesting project: just curious, what was the source of the data?
If it was polls or going through threads, the big confounding factor would be the tendency of people to not talk about things that aren't successful. The second potential confounder (no matter the source) would be the length of time a fish has been in a given tank. I've seen some flames and coral beauties, for example, that have been fine for 4 or 5 years, and then develop a taste for coral. If you catch those people at year 2, the fish will be labelled as safe.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15543043#post15543043

and

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1661153&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

 

[snorvich]

Interesting project: just curious, what was the source of the data?
If it was polls or going through threads, the big confounding factor would be the tendency of people to not talk about things that aren't successful. The second potential confounder (no matter the source) would be the length of time a fish has been in a given tank. I've seen some flames and coral beauties, for example, that have been fine for 4 or 5 years, and then develop a taste for coral. If you catch those people at year 2, the fish will be labelled as safe.

While the excel spreadsheet is wonderful information about trends, Wolverine is correct about the problems with non-sampling polls from a large population. There is certainly a bias, although that does diminish the value of the information presented. If you truly want to infer tendencies about a given factor within a population, the sample must be random.

 

[RedM3]

I've had corals in my 55g with my Coral Beauty Angel for several months now with no issues at all. Granted, I only have two corals in my tank so far (Taro Tree and Toadstool Leather). I've generally heard these dwarf angels are reef safe. Perhaps you want to consider one of them?

 

[jefft72]

I added a coral beauty to my 65g tank over this past weekend. I observed last night the angel nip at the trumpet coral. That has been the only thing I have witnessed so far. I have a mix of corals, so I will be keeping an eye out for his tendencies.

 

[Wolverine]

If you go back to the original threat about it. he even says its just what people have said any were willing to talk about. I don't see why anyone would keep from being honest. Some people have luck some haven't its not like they are tryin to put a tang in a 10 gallon in which they will get ridiculed for it.

It's not always about being dishonest, it's more just omission. Some people are perfectly open talking about what hasn't work. Others don't like to admit that they made a mistake (sometimes can't even admit it to themselves). I've seen multiple people go against advice they're given (here and on other boards, and in other hobbies). Then, when things go bad, they just stop posting. If it goes bad enough, they just get out of the hobby.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15543043#post15543043

and

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1661153&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

Thanks for the links.

 

[Shaqinwi 65]

I have a flame, potter, coral beauty and a heralds angel together in a 90g mixed reef with no problems

 

[Toddrtrex]

This is just my experiences, and remember each dwarf angel is going to be different. Also, the size of the tank, and amount of corals in there is going to be a big factor -- bigger tank, and a lot of corals will make it appear that less damage is being done.

Potters -- would nip at everything once in a while, but for the most part was fine with SPS, clams, and zoas.
Coral Beauty -- nips at everything, eaten some zoas, now seems to be leaving my clams alone, less PE with SPS. Loves LPS
Golden -- same as Coral Beauty
Venustus -- similar to the Potters -- Loves LPS
Flame -- out of all my angels, this one is the "safest"

Can see here 3 of them eating an LPS.

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