Dying snails ...caught the culprit !!!

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I have had my tank set up about 4-5 years now. Never added any rock since the start but have removed some over time. Two events devastated the twice. The first time major ich infestation . Cam out of nowhere . Had not added anything new or done anything to the tank just woke up one day and everyone was covered. Second event was a bad case of RTN lost quite a few corals , some that I had since day one. Again nothing had been added recently . In all this time I had noticed that my snails would die. Not a mass extinction but on or two here and there, and always on the bottom, never on the rock work ! I know snails are pretty susceptible to dying from the tank parameters being off. And since I started noticing this uring the RTN event I thought i had the culprit ... ME !!! Well after checking all the usual thing there was nothing in particular that stood out. I then looked at the other tank inhabitants and here too I really did not have much suspicion except for the occasional bristle worm I would spot. Most time they were occupying the empty snail shells but never could catch them in the act.
Now I have been adding snails all along but last week I added some new snails and instead of spreading them throughout the tank, as I have done in the past, I placed them all near the front of the glass. This way I could monitor who was doing fine and who was not. Within a day a couple of turbos were dead. It was driving me crazy. I notice two were grazing on a piece of PVC pipe i had place upright on the bottom with a piece of bubble coral on top. They had been there a couple of days and seemed fine. Last night when i got home one of them was dead. The other was still on the PVC but not moving. By the time i went to shower and returned the other turbo was on the bottom.
Upon closer inspection i noticed something moving on its shell. Looked like slime but with a purpose ! By the time i got my tongs it was got. *** !!! Looked around the area and did not see anything . Now i was ****ed. I sat in front of the tank for two hours trying to find what I had seen. Even placed a healthy snail in the same area hoping to draw out the culprit but that did not work. Whatever it was must of been full. Determined, I started moving rock and corals, tired and aggravated, I was hell bent on getting an answer. While moving things around i noticed an empty shell on its side but it was not empty. I saw what looked like the tissue of a snail without the hatch. I covered the shinny part of the bottom of the shell and continued into the shell. The opening of the shell was lined with whatever this creature was but it did not cover the opening. I quickly snatched up the shell and placed it into a specimen cup. Whatever it was it was retreating into the shell. Tired i thought i would wait till morning. I place a tight lid on the container and let it float in my Fuge.
When I got up this morning what i found in the specimen cup was about 2" long by 3/4"wide. Flat like a flounder but very agile. Lookin at it from the bottom it almost looks like the outline of a Maxima clam as you look down on it.
Now the real question ... anyone else ever encounter something like this before ... Neil
 
Yep. Thats the SOB. Next question are these flatworms loners or should i start looking for more. I did not read through the link posted above but , are they dangerous to corals too ?
 
The link seems to note multiples, but I don't know if thats because multiple were introduced, or if they are breeding.
I believe Adrienne is correct in the ID, I was just going for something with pictures. Regardless, what is in the link is a flat worm, so hopefully a search for how to get rid of them with the ID will help.
From memory, I believe they dine exclusively on snails and mollusks, so personally, I'd just try to starve them out. (no new snails)
 


Hey that's my thread :)

The outcome was that when I eventually broke that tank down I found quite a few of them, probably close to a dozen.

The tank had been running about 6 yrs, and I had only had issues with snail losses for the last 2 or so yrs. In that time nothing large was added that would have been likely to have carried more than one or two of them, so my assumption is that 1 or 2 snuck in at some point and managed to reproduce one way or another.

I never found anything to eat or kill them, and the only progress I ever made in fighting them was to get in the habit of scanning the tank with a flashlight at night as often as I could. Doing that, every once and a while I would spot one, and I could usually suck it out with a turkey baster.
 
In case that link gets removed, here's a quick quote cut and pasted from it;

"This is what Mr.Shimek said (cut and pasted);

"Such polyclads are not at all uncommon. The only way to get rid of them is to catch them and remove them. They will often eat clams as well, so one way to catch them is go to a store and by some fresh "steamer" clams. Put the clams "on the half shell" in a jar and use that as a trap for the worms. Alternatively, the only other options are 1) breakdown the tank - carefully to see if one can find any other worms, or 2) do a lot of "night" dives/observations with a red light and hope you can find the worm out hunting.

Good luck... "
"
 
Well I will have to opt for the night dives since breaking down the tank is out of the question. Like the steamer clam idea though would rather eat the steamers myself !!! LOL Now i'll need to keep an eye on a large thorny oyster i have in there.
 
I lost tons of snails to polyclads, tore down half my tank to catch this one.
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It was 4 inches long.
 
if theyre like most flatworms they can reproduce asexually. they rip themselves in half and then you have two
 
I lost tons of snails to polyclads, tore down half my tank to catch this one.
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It was 4 inches long.

That's a nasty flatworm! How did you end up catching it? I have a friend on another forum that has tried traps, tweezers etc. with no luck.

Edit: I should've read the entire thread. Sorry.
 
I had to take apart half my tank to get to the rock it was hiding under. I put the rock in a bucket and blew it off the rock with a turkey baster.
 
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