Early mistakes...what might I expect?

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I'm in the waiting phase of cycling my new tank so I've had plenty of time to read through this great forum. Its apparent to me now I've made some early mistakes mostly due to old FW habbits and the fact that my years of aquarium experience lead me into a false sense of security on some things. So here are the mistakes I believe have occured and I'm hoping maybe this community can help me nip some things in the bud before the become a problem down the road.

First the tap water issue. I have no idea why I went this route. My original plan was boxed sea water or at the very least distilled or de-ionized water. All I remember thinking was hell I've set up a ton of tanks including a 55 gal saltwater (non-reef) and they were all just fine. So I went for it. Oops. So from what I can tell so far the biggest threat will be an algae bloom at some point durring my cycle due to phosphates in the tap water. So should I do anything to premptively strike on this and what else might I expect from this mistake. Also will doing water changes with ro/di water eventualy work this out.

Second was the decision to use dry rock. I did a lot of research before setting this tank up and I'll be honest most of the horor stories I read about live rock regarding hitch hikers, aiptasia etc. made me not want to deal with it. So how bad a decision was this and is it only going to slow things down for me or might there be other issues arise from this?

Third is filtration. We looked at so many options before buying the set up we have. It all started with a Coralife Biocube 29 and came down finally to a reef ready rimless 60 gal cube and the 37 gal standard column tank we ended up purchasing. We wanted to start small and the 60 gal while beautiful seemed more than what we wanted right now. So we decided to stay with a nano reef. Originaly we looked at a fluval HOB filter and then the Aquatop canister. We were told both would accomplish the same objective with regard to mechanical filtration. The canister was larger and fitered more water faster and it wasn't much more than the HOB so we went the canister route. So besides the risk of this thing beeoming a nitrate factory if not cleaned often enough what else might I expect with this method of filtration?

Lastly no skimmer right now but I can always add one later. Wouldnt call this a mistake just wondering how I will know if I need one and how it will help my smaller system. Well there it is. We really just wanted to start with a small manageable nano reef for our bedroom. Thats kind of what started this whole thing.
 
RO/DI water changes will help. And will be necessary in the future. No more tap. Using dry rock is just fine. Most people start that way now, it just takes longer to cycle the rock and build up your bacteria. It will all become live soon. Depending on how much rock you have, you may not need the canister, as the rock and canister do the same thing.
 
Here are some pics of the tank. I used about 45lbs of rock.
 

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Have you played with the aquascape much? Right now it looks kind of densely packed as compared to what I like in my tanks. I like to have spaces between the rock where the fish can swim through etc. This also allows for better water flow throughout the tank and around the corals if you plan on adding any.

I'm not a huge fan of canister filters on SW because most people don't clean them frequently enough since they are often a PITA to clean. As you mentioned they can then become a nitrate factory. Also, changing out the filter media and possibly things like carbon can have a bigger impact on a small tank when not done regularly. If you are diligent about cleaning the filter then it should be fine. To give you a comparison though, a lot of people change the filter socks on the intake of their sump every other day to remove the particulates from the system before they begin to break down. No way you'd find me tearing in to a canister filter every other day to change the filter media, I'm just too lazy. Anyway, if it were me I'd probably go with in tank powerheads/wavemakers for water movement and a good HOB skimmer for your filtration.
 
So ditch the canister and go with skimmer only? The rockscape actually has a lot of holes and openings in it. I packed it loosly but its hard to tell from those pics.
 
I started of with tap water myself. I will say a RO/DI unit is worth the money. My corals started to grow big time after a few months of flushing out the tap water.
 
If it were me I'd ditch the canister filter except when you have a need for extra particulate removal (for example, if you've done something in the tank that has stirred up detritus). BUT...that is just a personal preference for how I'd do it. That not to necessarily say it's better or that you'll like it that way. You'll be fine to start as is and see how it goes. If you find that you don't like the chore of cleaning the canister filter regularly you could consider adding a good HOB filter with a small prefilter area to capture particulates. For me it was a lot easier to rinse out a small sponge prefilter in a HOB skimmer every day or so than it was to tear apart a canister.

Edited: I suppose I should ad that my preferred way to run a tank will always be to have a good sized sump with fuge but I was simply commenting on the tank/equipment that you listed.
 
Early mistakes...what might I expect?

If the aquatop has the uv, then I would keep it around. The uv has helped my system with algae outbreaks from cycling. But it will not be sufficient. And the aquatops are horrible to clean. Believe me I have the same one. And it drives
Me crazy. I avoid that task like the plague, which is obviously an issue. But again not horrible to have lying around after water changes when everything is stirred up. But I wouldn't run it all the time. Get a good protein skimmer in a few weeks after you do some research on the best one for your system. I pretty much
Did everything that you are already doing 6 months ago. I don't regret using dry rock, although I did seed it with a few live rock pieces, and it
Took a full 6 weeks to cycle, which wasn't a problem for me because I was out of town for most of that time. So what I am Doing now to correct everything is getting a sump, a better skimmer, and an ato. I would also do some research on those lights if you are planning on a reef. I am not familiar with the specs on them but I'm not sure they will be sufficient and if you still return them it
Might be a good option if they are not strong enough
 
How long have u been cyclein?I also started with dry rock and am in week four.but myan is still white as bone not even algae on it. But I am having high nitrite problem and I'm also thinking I don't have phosphates in the water. But yours looks great good luck.
 
Oh I forgot my real reason for posting. I picked up cheap ( I think 50 or 60 bucks) rodi filter on amazon. Well worth it I will look for the name or link but u shouldn't have trouble find it if u search. If ur even intrested?
 
Yeah the canister has the UV. I guess the first time I have to clean it I'll know. That was my only concern with buying it. The fluval just seemed inadequate based on the size of fhe filter and medium. That was the main reason I went with a canister.
 
Ya I looked at canister also. But I decided on nuclear hob 70 and 110 on 29 g. Tank run chemi pure in both phosguard in one and matrix in the other.
 
How long have u been cyclein?I also started with dry rock and am in week four.but myan is still white as bone not even algae on it. But I am having high nitrite problem and I'm also thinking I don't have phosphates in the water. But yours looks great good luck.

I'm one week today into the cycle. Amonia has dropped below .25ppm and nitrites have droped just below 1ppm but the nitrates are still a little high at 10 to 15ppm but still down from the 20 to 30 it was at. I used live sand and live bacteria added to to the water. Not sure if it helped yet buy the water is crystal clear and I never really had a big amonia spike even with a dead emerald crab in the tank. Hitch hiker long story...
 
Oh I forgot my real reason for posting. I picked up cheap ( I think 50 or 60 bucks) rodi filter on amazon. Well worth it I will look for the name or link but u shouldn't have trouble find it if u search. If ur even intrested?

Yes definitely interested
 
I used Dr.Tim's one and only and stabiliy but my mistake was I kept feeding amm.not too high 2 ppm but I should have backed off amm. Sooner allowing other bacteria to catch up. I just did two 90% water changes still off charts but it does take longer to get color.
 
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