ecobond any one use it?

[CANAMONSTER]

http://ecobondadhesives.com/

Any one use this stuff? Looks like it would be great for my DIY tank with a liquid rubber sealer to install the window with!

 

[sleepydoc]

Can't comment on those adhesives specifically, but in general when they make products like that 'non-toxic,' they have to substitute other components for the 'toxic' ones which usually means a compromise in performance. (Sometimes it's just price, but usually performance, too.) Either way you have a wide variety of tried & true products that have been used for aquariums and are known to be safe, so you would be incurring some risk with very little benefit by going with the ecobond products.

 

[CANAMONSTER]

Just because the toxic products are removed doesn't mean it can't still perform. There is a lot of paints with low VOC that out perform there old counter part. Also a lot of industrial sealants and coatings.

For one with paints you remove organic resins and replace with something that is now "safe" but I think its a matter of time before that "safe" replacement is deemed unsafe! So yes when "Eco" products first arrived they might have been crap but we are well into the Eco friendly niche that products with this title have come along way

 

[sleepydoc]

Never said they couldn't perform, just that they frequently didn't. You are certainly correct that there are a lot of perfectly acceptable Eco products on the market, and still a lot of compromised ones, too. I haven't seen any other caulks/sealants, which makes me more more leery, but I still go back to my question - what's the benefit? What's the risk? For something like a reef tank where there are significant risks, I can't see the advantage of trying something new and unproven.

 

[NanoReefWanabe]

the HD one has a very similar strength as rtV and the likes…

vey interesting…would be worth a shot to build a small tank and see what happens..

 

[uncleof6]

the HD one has a very similar strength as rtV and the likes"¦

vey interesting"¦would be worth a shot to build a small tank and see what happens..

The tensile strength and shear strength, are similar to RTV, however are irrelevant to the "holding together" of a glass tank. The peel strength (The average load per unit width required to separate a flexible memberhttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/member from a rigid member or another flexible member,) is what matters, and it is inline with mid range consumer grade sealants and adhesives, not close to the industrial adhesives RTV100 or SCS1200. Glass tanks come apart when the silicone separates from the glass, and this property is the weakest link with glass aquariums. Unfortunately "strength" has multiple meanings, in this context. It is the old "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link.