Electrical help.

[davefeag]

A double or quad box is simply a utility box that has room for multiple switches or outlets.

His idea would a lot neater than seperate boxes. The drawing still applies, just consolidate the switches into one box and the outlets in another box.

 

[BeanAnimal]

My post was not in any way meant to flame you.... A MOD is the only person who can edit a post. I did not remember that you could have simply changed the photo in your gallery and the new photo would have showed up in the post.

In any case, I just wanted to make sure that nobody saw the picture and contructed the circuit in that manner (switched neutral).

Sorry to ruffle any feathers, it surely was not my intent.

 

[davefeag]

All is well.:rollface:

 

[douggiestyle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7219217#post7219217 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rutledgek
I think I do understand actually. I wouldnt need a T but Just strip some of the wire and screw that under the screw and then run it on to the wires end and screw the end into the next switch. I purchased a 2 gang box for both switches and then a single box for the recepticle. I need to break the bridge between the sockets on the receptical so each one can be controlled independently, correct?

either youve been doing some reading or had one of those "aha" moments (i get those alot). anyways thats about it.

with the outlet in a seperate box you would have to run two 2 wire cables or one 3 wire cable.

 

[douggiestyle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7219083#post7219083 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hmott
Well considering the guy isn't sure how to make a y, and you are talking way over my head. I bet he didn't get much out of yours.

So, because I'm just learning about electricity and want to learn what I can where I can. What is a 2/3/4 gang box, and what are duplex receptical and switchs?

I did know you also run the switching on black so end points aren't half hot all the time. I didn't notice it in the drawing though, good catch guys.

gang boxes are boxes to hold switches and outlets etc. they usualy have holes for wiring and fasteners and such. they are 1,2,3,4,5,6,....... that designates the quantity of std. outlets and switches etc. that can be placed in them.

i was cryptic on purpose. so as to push one into some basic household wiring research.

some thing to be added. check amperage of cord plug switch and outlet to products being used. personally i go up one notch.

if 15a is ok then go 20a. but thats just me.

 

[rutledgek]

I see what you are saying now. I think I will get a 3 gang box. So I would run the black from the plug to both of the switches stripping a small section of wire fir the first switch and then the end of the wire fro the second switch. THen I would break the bridge between the two outlets and run a black wire from the first switch to the top half and another one from the other switch to the bottom half of the outlet. Now hopefully this is the last question. Can I run one white wire to both halves of the outlet like i ran the black to both switches? Als Can I strip the green wire in more than one place to connect all of the outlets and switches to the ground? Ok so that was two questions but I think I am seeing where this is going and I wanted to get it straight.

 

[BeanAnimal]

in case it was not mentioned (I did not read the whole thread, just the last few post)

A DUPLEX receptical is one with (2) places to put a plug in. These fit into a single duplex box (the same box that would hold a single switch). A box that would holed 2 switches or recepticles (a total of 4 plugin spots) is a double duplex... and so on.

Bean

 

[douggiestyle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7221408#post7221408 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
in case it was not mentioned (I did not read the whole thread, just the last few post)

A DUPLEX receptical is one with (2) places to put a plug in. These fit into a single duplex box (the same box that would hold a single switch). A box that would holed 2 switches or recepticles (a total of 4 plugin spots) is a double duplex... and so on.

Bean

nah, you are right on the money!

i would call it a double gang box.

so to put two switches and one duplex outlet seperately switched would require a triple (or 3) gang box.

 

[rutledgek]

Do they make plates that have two switches and 1 outlet?

 

[douggiestyle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7220974#post7220974 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rutledgek
I see what you are saying now. I think I will get a 3 gang box. So I would run the black from the plug to both of the switches stripping a small section of wire fir the first switch and then the end of the wire fro the second switch. THen I would break the bridge between the two outlets and run a black wire from the first switch to the top half and another one from the other switch to the bottom half of the outlet. Now hopefully this is the last question. Can I run one white wire to both halves of the outlet like i ran the black to both switches? Als Can I strip the green wire in more than one place to connect all of the outlets and switches to the ground? Ok so that was two questions but I think I am seeing where this is going and I wanted to get it straight.

sure you could do that with the common, but dont. just leave the tab on the common side of the outlet.

i personally do not like doing that with the ground. i like to leave the ground long and ground the box (if metal) and then use a wire nut and run seperate grounds to each outlet /switch. but your ground is coated so its your call.

 

[douggiestyle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7221716#post7221716 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rutledgek
Do they make plates that have two switches and 1 outlet?

sure or if you use the right switches and outlets it dosent matter.

 

[douggiestyle]

leviton (at HD) makes two switches in the space of one. nice set up. and switch plate and outlet plate are interchangable

 

[rutledgek]

You know every time I think I get a handle on this I get slightly confused. No for the duplex outlet. I will break the bridge on the hot side but leave the bridge on the common side in tact and just run one wire from that side of the outlet?