Elos midi 36g gallon sump help

[Maxim.dockx]

Hello, i bought a second hand elos midi 36gallon last weekend.

Been trying to figure out where to put what as this is my first reef tank.
I have been trying to find lots of information on this but i see different setups everywhere.


I think the setup is the following.

1. overflow tube straight down in to the water. (while cleaning it with vinegar last weekend i had lots of bubbles this way though)
8. skimmer
4. output of skimmer water right into a filter sock.
2. return pump right under the valve.
7. osmocontroller ATO
6. heater.

I have simply no clue what the use is of 3 and 5. Am i placing something wrong? previous owner told me to put some filter materials in there. (pipes, etc)


How high should the water stand in the placee where the water is going in?


Greetings

Max

 

[Maxim.dockx]

bump

 

[jonathanyhsu]

Everything you posted looks correct, and is similar to how I have mine setup. I personally don't have my return pump directly underneath one of the returns from those side chambers, but I don't think it matters too much. As for how high the water should be, that's decided by your skimmer. Some skimmers work better with certain water levels, and so forth.

I would setup the tank with salt water, run the skimmer, and take the time to play with the settings a bit and see if you are happy with the water levels you can get out of it. Add or remove salt water as necessary to get the level you want, then mark it with a bit of painter's tape. Your osmocontroller's sensor should also be dangled to this water level.

 

[Maxim.dockx]

Should i put something in the left and right chamber?

 

[jonathanyhsu]

ELOS has those up to the individual user; one common usage I've seen is to have live rock rubble in the left (the chamber with the nozzle, and much slower water flow) to encourage filter feeders, and possibly a chaeto algae ball in the right. Even with zero lights in the cabinet, I've had a chaeto ball basically survive although it's not really thriving either.

 

[Maxim.dockx]

But if thinking about the flow of the water, it goes in the middle and comes out at the left chamber. so there isnt that much movement in the right chamber? correct?

 

[jonathanyhsu]

The right chamber with the larger outflow hole (and the plastic baffle) allows for greater water flow out. You could put the live rock there, and the chaeto on the other side; it's just that the smaller diameter hole makes for a less water flow out the chamber. Depending on your circumstances, you may want higher or lower flow.

 

[Maxim.dockx]

Ok, i think i understand. i will be setting him up and filling him this weekend at his correct spot!

 

[elositaly]

3: is a fasf flow area, you can put there carbon, or Anti phos materials.
5: is the "reducing" chamber. You can use as a small "deep sand" area or "DSB bucket".

Hope this help.

Nick

 

[Maxim.dockx]

3: is a fasf flow area, you can put there carbon, or Anti phos materials.
5: is the "reducing" chamber. You can use as a small "deep sand" area or "DSB bucket".

Hope this help.

Nick

Hi nick,

Tank is running about 4 weeks now. I put a piece of rock in 5 and will be putting a phos filter in 3.
The one thing i dont understand is why is the skimmer in the same chamber as the return pump?

 

[Maxim.dockx]

@elositaly

I currently have everything installed like this

http://imgur.com/qD4swtI

I have a few questions about optimizing

1. why is the skimmer in the same chamber as the return pump

2. i cant seem to get the skimmer right. or it overflows or it the dirt gets stuck at the middle of the cup.

3. if i put off my return pump, the water coming back from the DT overflows my sump. Is this normal?

4. i currently have a semi flexible 40mm tube coming back from the drain with a ball valve for controlling the drain. But i notice that there is somewhere coming a bit of water out of the hard pvc right about the ball valve. Is this bad?

5. because i have now placed my return pump right under the valve from the left chamber i dont get bubbles in my DT, however i do have some bubbles coming out of my ball valve, but they never seem to reach my return. is hard plumping with pvc a better way (would make a few u's with the pvc so that i can let my drain come down right before the right chamber.

Any optimizing suggestions?

Thanks

 

[ELOSAmerica]

@Maxim.dockx
all done
for me everything is ok in your installation.
you can also put the descent of the overflow in the first column to the right of the image after the release of the skimmer.
in compartment with live rock, Ccarb500 M and CFiltrap "remove PO4" will be perfect according to your needs.
there remains only you enjoy your ELOS. welcome to the family ELOS
contact me if you need something else . i can Helps , your welcome.
François ELOSamerica

 

[ELOSAmerica]

@elositaly

I currently have everything installed like this

http://imgur.com/qD4swtI

I have a few questions about optimizing

1. why is the skimmer in the same chamber as the return pump

2. i cant seem to get the skimmer right. or it overflows or it the dirt gets stuck at the middle of the cup.

3. if i put off my return pump, the water coming back from the DT overflows my sump. Is this normal?

4. i currently have a semi flexible 40mm tube coming back from the drain with a ball valve for controlling the drain. But i notice that there is somewhere coming a bit of water out of the hard pvc right about the ball valve. Is this bad?

5. because i have now placed my return pump right under the valve from the left chamber i dont get bubbles in my DT, however i do have some bubbles coming out of my ball valve, but they never seem to reach my return. is hard plumping with pvc a better way (would make a few u's with the pvc so that i can let my drain come down right before the right chamber.

Any optimizing suggestions?

Thanks

1 :the skimmer is in the same chamber as the pump because, it pumps water directly and sends in filtronbag and the variable flow compartment .the flow of skimmer allows it.
we must think that the filter is a space equal to the aquarium as if the skimmer be directly in the tank.
the return water can be in the same compartment that does not prevent proper filtration of the water.

2:the adjustment of the skimmer can take time. it is necessary that the foam begins just below the departure of the cup of the skimmer. by regulating the output of the skimmer with the red screw. I also think that the level in the chamber of the skimmer may be a little high and this can make to overflow the skimmer.

3:Yes its normal , because may be the level was a little to high in the chamber ... but its not a problem when you switch on the pump. all level gone at the same before you shut off.

4:nothing serious with some water loss in the filter. but you can also get to the water drain directly into Part 3 of the sump. thus reducing the bubbles in the filter and thus into the tank

5:you should avoid putting the pump near the hole of the chamber and so reduce any vacuum bubbles. and as for Part 4, if you put your tube direct in compartment 3 it'll also reduce the bubbles.