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To be perfectly fair, they never claimed this to be any kind of "record". They simply said this expedition was going to attempt to push past the deepest known dive at the site.

Ah yes... You're right. Dunno why I read "record" in there before. Weird.

Makes me feel all stupid... :) You sure it didn't change or something? Coulda sworn it said "record" before.

Weird.

Cool video on the guy's website, though... The yellow jet fins are a very rare thing, only sold in Norway or Netherlands or something, if I remember correctly. There's also baby blue and light pink Jets out there, too... Just not in the US.

I once offered a guy $300 for his wife's pink Jets for Kym... But he wouldn't part with them. :)

I once saw a set of Jets that were all melted-together red, white and blue. I think they were manufactured in 1976 (US bicentennial) or something like that.

Actually, I'm glad they only make them in black today. :) All others are a "Rule 6" violation. LOL!

That said, just being different is pretty cool. :)

Personally, I'd be happy to make it to the Doria in a couple years :bounce3:

Yeah, the 'Doria has a special place in many people's hearts. I've always wanted to do it, too... Although it's really not that bad of a dive, when you think about it. What's max - like 250'? Vis is a descent (but not great) 20' or so, and currents are standard-fare for the North Atlantic, which is to say that they can be a little stiff at times, but not unthinkable.

I can think of more challenging dives... It's just that the 'Doria is such a big thing in shipwreck stories. :)

I think I'd prefer to dive the Edmund Fitzgerald... Or about a half dozen wrecks that I know of that I can't tell anyone about. :)
 
Hahahahaaa! Great Lakes? No question, even in the summertime... Definitely dry...

I think the Fitz is protected, isn't it? I always thought it was off limits... And deep.

Not that "off limits" has ever meant anything to me anyway... :)
 
Hahahaaaaa... Yeah, probably a few ponies. And a Spare Air. :D

You know, I remember seeing a show about the Fitz - didn't they test the Newt Suit on that dive, and cut off the bell? I don't remember it being that deep.

Theoretically, even at that depth, you could do the dive - if you were willing to commit to the staged decompression obligation and had plenty of gas (ie surface supplied)...

http://www.deepsouthdivers.org/old/songs/wotef.mp3
 
Hahahaaaaa... Yeah, probably a few ponies. And a Spare Air. :D
You would want the small one, since the larger size is just too damned cumbersome! :cool:

You remember me saying that if I ever had a spare $10k laying around with nothing to do with it, that I would hire Gorden Lightfoot to come play at my house..? Well, I changed my mind!

I would buy a CCR, dive the Fitz, sell the "solid gold bell" on eBay, then pay Gordon Lightfoot to play a couple of gigs in a campground with all my friends present! ;)

That my friends is how you plan a dive, and dive a plan!!! :D
 
Yeah, the 'Doria has a special place in many people's hearts. I've always wanted to do it, too... Although it's really not that bad of a dive, when you think about it. What's max - like 250'? Vis is a descent (but not great) 20' or so, and currents are standard-fare for the North Atlantic, which is to say that they can be a little stiff at times, but not unthinkable.

I can think of more challenging dives... It's just that the 'Doria is such a big thing in shipwreck stories. :)

I think I'd prefer to dive the Edmund Fitzgerald... Or about a half dozen wrecks that I know of that I can't tell anyone about. :)

Yeah, max is 240-250' starts ~180-190' so I could dive it now, at least the higher parts. But baby steps....it's not going anywhere and it's also local for me. Need to get there before moving on to the next thing like say the Norness, U-869 (or cough, cough, the U-550.... :worried:)

The Big Fitz would be a wild dive and really wicked COLD!!!
 
god yal are MURDERING my thread for my search for a computer haha tho I have found everything interesting and imformative to read but can we PLEASE help me with my shopping issue ha.

I do have some other diving related questions id like to PM ya about tho! Seajay, Tgreenw and diver07
 
I've heard goofier plans before, Tim. :)

I like it. :)

LOL @ using a Spare Air. :)

Campground - Ginnie Springs, perhaps? :)

Sorry about the thread, TTU... Divers. Ya just can't take them out in public. :D

When it comes to computers, I'm a fan of brass n' glass (okay, in the following case, stainless n' glass)... And whatever features you choose, I've found a great advantage in any computer that will log your dives automatically and show you a graphed profile of your dives. Using that, you can learn to "tune" your dive profile to look like a check mark or a Nike swoosh - steep in the beginning, then gradually acending, which is the healthy way to dive, regardless of your depth. This is nearly impossible to master without a graphing computer.

So whatever you pick, choose one that will enable you to download the profile so you can examine your dives. The Suunto D4 can do just that, in fact, right on the instrument itself, as it's got a built-in matrix display. Too cool, IMHO, and something that's genuinely useful in furthering your dive skills. My favorite computer that I've got is the D6, essentially a D4 with a built-in compass that allows me to ditch the Suunto SK7 compass that I wear otherwise. I am exceedingly happy with the D6, and yes, the compass is very legible and works very well and is simple and intuitive, if you're willing to pay the extra money to have the feature (D6 vs. D4).

I also own a Vyper and a Stinger. The Vyper has the advantage that the batteries are user-changable, which is to say that when you dive enough to run them down (takes a couple hundred dives or a year or two - whichever comes first) then you can change them yourself without having to send the computer in to the factory. However, after having done it a time or two, I don't know why anyone would. Pay the couple of bucks, have it done right, and probably have a new o-ring put in anyway.

The Vyper also has the advantage of being hockey-puck large - like all of the other dive computers out there. This gives the impression that it'll be easier to work with gloved fingers. When I first got it, I figured that this made sense and would be easier to see underwater, too. However, the truth is that it didn't really make any difference, and the D4/D6/D9's numbers are almost the same size - just less "dead space" on the face of the computer. Underwater, I rarely find myself using the buttons anyway, and I almost always choose to light my gauges when I check them (with whatever light I'm using) rather than find the button to activate the computer's backlighting (and run down it's batteries), assuming that I'm diving someplace dark enough to need a light in the first place (only about half my dives).

To the best of my knowledge, the Stinger has been discontinued and replaced by the D4. The D4 has a newer algorithm that includes deep stops (something you'll likely get into when you begin doing mandatory deco dives, although you'll probably be doing them on a PLAN and not according to your computer anyway) and the matrix display that gives the programmers all kinds of cool things that it can do, including the graphed profiles right on the face, no downloading required.

The D4/D6/D9 are also much smaller than a regular dive computer - about the size of a large wristwatch, and about the size of my old Stinger - which makes them genuine fashion watches. I like wearing mine all the time, although I must admit that it does tend to take more of a beating everyday than if I were just using it as a dive instrument.

...Which is why metal and glass is an advantage - much more durable than the plastic and plastic that most dive computers are made from. And don't believe people when they say that scratches disappear underwater... No, they're just as annoying during your decompression stop as they are topside. :)

Speaking of scratches - all of the above come with some sort of "anti-scratch guard" tool that clips onto the instrument, but they're notoriously bulky and awkward - if you're like every other diver I know, you'll ditch it (and any other add-on plastic doohickeys) within the first 10 or 20 dives. Besides, like putting a bra on the front of a nice car, the anti-scratch thingie actually scratches your instrument over time... So what's the point of using it?

...Again, which makes glass n' metal instruments much more durable and very attractive.

The D4 is a little more than $300, but if you look around closely on eBay and such and do Google searches, you can probably find one very close to that price.

Interestingly, all of Suunto's D-series are small enough to wear as a watch, too, which is uber-cool diver fashion, if you ask me. :)

Check this out: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=suunto+d4&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Oh... And dive computers (or timers or guages or whatever you want to call them, in whatever flavor) belong on your RIGHT wrist... Even if you're right-handed. Yes, I wear mine on my LEFT wrist daily, like I do when I wear a plain watch - but while diving, it's on my RIGHT wrist. The reason is simple - so as I'm ascending, I can keep it in front of my eyes while I use my LEFT hand to manipulate my power inflator/dumps. If the instrument was on my LEFT wrist, then I couldn't watch my gauges the whole time while dumping.

What other questions do you have? I think I speak for everyone when I say that we love talking diving... :)
 
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Lol... Not sure if you're referring to the time that my pants weren't covering my big butt when I bent over the tank, or if you're referring to the fact that Anton's pants wouldn't stay up at all during that one "special" night out... But both were pathetically funny. :)
 
I was taking photos inside the tank and looked over to see him eyeballin' the work. Since I had the camera, I took a couple of photos of him.

During one photo (of him in the crowd of people watching the divers), he made a "3" with his fingers like it was some kind of gang sign, just for the picture. I 'bout choked laughing so hard!

Later he told me that someone in the crowd asked if "the diver with the camera" was okay - apparently they saw me spit out my reg and flood my mask and lose all control of buoyancy. :)

His reply was, "Uh, yeah, he'll be fine. He's a professional." LOL!!

By the way, this Sunday's supposed to be the day that the whales come back. I wish I could be there to see it happen.

TTU, you up yet? :)
 
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