First time tank

DanNolan

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I am looking to start a new aquarium, I am open to all suggestions, I currently have a 10 Gallon tank that I am willing to recycle into a filter tank or req tank to help the main tank.

I am considering making my own tank to increase its size, and am also considering buying a tank, max size I can get for under 300. I want to make as much of the kit as I can, not to save money but to learn and start right from the get go.

I have some ideas in my head but am not sure where to start as my sums could be wrong.

Can I use an overflow setup in the main tank to gravity drive water to the lower tank/sump/overflow with a return pump to return the water back to the main tank? I understand that the overflow will need to be designed well to ensure the tank does not drain completely during a power loss. Was thinking a seperate 5 in by 5 in chamber with a drain at the bottom and a pipe running up to the top at the desired min water level in that chamber, with the walls of the chamer being at the desired min water level of the actual aquarium.

What kind of filters will I need in place to make the aquarium as self efficient as possible? Can I use a loop to increase the water flow to lighten the load on my sump/filter box? Can I put a filter inline on the loop to increase filtration? Ie, having 2 or 3 closed loops, plus the req/filter lower tank. Whats the minimum reconmended size for the lower tank in relation to the upper tank, ie a fifth, or 20% or 50% of the main tank size.

Can I place the heater equipment in a loop to minimize the amount of equipment placed directly in my main tank? I am really hoping to attempt to hide all of the equipment either in the lower tank or in loops.

I know the minimum I want the main tank to be is 50 gallons, no max, just a price limit.

As for the req/filter, I plan on splitting up the tank into 4 sections, one section, roughly a third of the tank will be at the front of the tank running its full length, this will be a req section with an aerator, sand, rocks and some live plants. the back two thirds of the tank will be seperated into 3 chambers, the first an inlet, with an overflow into the 2nd which houses a physical filter, the 2nd either a refuge or chemical treatment area, the 3rd a wet/dry area with the outlet pump below. I dont have any sketches right now but will make some up after work.

I plan on only about a quarter of the hourly waterflow going through this filter, with another quarter going through an inline carbon filter and another quarter going through a scimmer. Each on their own seperate loop. Is this possible or will I need to channel all water through each in turn and then return it to the tank?

Im hoping to do it that way to increase the overall waterflow in and out of the tank without paying for huge volume motors, and having it all pretty well spread out minimizing dead circulation spots without the user of powerheads.

Are there formulas to help decide the min filter area needed, min waterflow, max fish, max/min rock, sand etc. I also saw an aquarium once with a layer of water underneath the sand, created by a filter material and blocks, is this needed? is it beneficial?

Once the equipment is set up and running, how long will the aquarium need to run and cure before it can be fish ready?

Any and all advice is appreciated, I am completely new to this, having only kept land hermit crabs up until now.
 
Oh, point might be mute, as this is a reef site, but the aquarium will be reef and fish.

Im wanting a couple of real small fish and a couple medium ie under 1 inch each like a clown or two and a few blue hermit on the bottom shifting sand. My wife has requested a seahorse or two as well.
 
You can get a 90g all-glass aquarium with built in overflow for $265 at my LFS. You could make your own tank. If you are planning something really large it could be worth it. I would just go retail though. Using an overflow/sump is the prefered method of most salties I know. The great thing about the sump is all of your eqipment can be housed there i.e. heaters, protien skimmers, filters ect... On my reef tank and my fish only tank I have nothing but a skimmer and live rock for filtration. I would'nt use a wet/dry unless you plan on having little rock and I wouldnt reccoment using one on a reef. You sound like you have a pretty good idea of what to do. Your 10g will work as a sump for any small system. Your sump plans sound pretty good. You dont really need an airator they get clogged pretty fast in saltwater. If you are going to be keeping corals then you need to invest in some good lights. The two things you really shouldnt skimp on is lighting, and a protien skimmer. The layer of water under the sand is called a plenum. They can be beneficial, but require exra maintainance. As far as keeping seahorses, i would wait until your aquarium is very well cycled and lots of live rock.
 
I attached an image of my filter box setup idea. the water headed in is prescimmed, its not to scale however. Also, 50% of the water will head straight to the other other req before being channeled into the end section of the diagram below where the wet dry filter is.

Will I need any kind of UV setup anywhere?

I plan on having strong lights over both boxes to maximize the growth of the plants below and the coral above.

What is LFS? Do they have a site?

Is there a formula to work out the min water flow needed to the filters to ensure good water quality. like for good quality, does a 90g tank need 9g of the water filtered every hour, or more. Im trying to figure out how much of my water flow needs to be dedicated to the filter setup below.
 
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Thats the tank sketch btw.

Using a filter medium between the first and 2nd section to catch large impurities, 2nd tank will be a req or maybe a chamber to store chemical replacers etc, and third chamber is the wet dry. The req will take a feed from the scimmed supply and then pass out to the end of the diagram below.
 
Ok, I now have two 10 Gallon tanks, one will serve as a refuge the other will be filters, anyone care to help with either a 10 gallon tank setup to convert it to run as a filter/sump/overflow. Want to house the equipment to run a 100g tank in that 10g tank so little to nothing is on show on the main tank. Going to use a couple closed loops to up the flow of the tank and to hide a secondary in line carbon filter/heater.

Below is what I am now basically thinking of trying to get running, the only thing I have not drawn is the closed loops. Ill place those on a drawing later.

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Key:

1. Overflow
2. Protein Scimmer Location
3. Refuge with aerators live rock and plants
4. Main Inlet to filter tank
5. Live Rock
6. Outlet and Dry/Wet Filter above - Overflow to side
7. Return Pump
8. Overflow from Refuge to Filter Tank

Any recommendations on the filter tank layout, or ideas on improvements, etc. All gladly accepted.
 
I found and have a tank on order, its 110g so im having a total of 130g capacity. Any advice on what kinda numbers this can support both coral, crab, shrimp and fish wise?

The refuge will be on display too, below the main tank, can I host one or two small invertebrates there?
 
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