First time truly scared in this hobby.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9125620#post9125620 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis L. Stevens
It's how your body reacts to the venom, and how much venom entered your body. If your body has trouble processing the venom, you enter a state of anaphylaxis; an allergic reaction. This can range from very mild (super puffy hands in Sheryl's case, kind of like an allergic reaction to a bee sting) all the way up to complete respritory failure and death in addition to whatever the venom's target system corruption is. For example, a venom that is based on a Neurotoxin will stop all motor function because it blocks the electrical transmissions through the nervous system. Thus, some or all of your vital organs can stop working, all the while your airways constrict and keep you from breathingIt is really a horrible death going through Anaphylactic Shock.
Actually....
Some people hurt more because of individual pain tolerance and differing sensitivity.
Anaphylaxis is as a direct result of circulating antibodies to the venom/protein/foreign body that result in a massive allergic reaction through a runaway cascade of histamine and other allergy mediators. It has nothing to do with how a person processes a toxin. Puffiness in the hands is more likely the result of a localised inflammation, which has similarities to allergic reaction, but is very much different. This symptom can also be affected by an individuals health, possible medications. A bee sting, for example, causes swelling. Thats localized inflammation. Sadly in a percent of the population, it may also cause an allergic reaction and anaphylactic shock. These are two very different situations.
Neurotoxins are a completely different issue. these can affect several different sets of nerves leading to paralysis with consciousness, unconsciousness without paralysis and any number of intermediates.
With regards to our systems, it is entirely possible an individual could go into anaphylactic shock, tho unlikely. The pain we receive is directly from the venom and the inflammation. To confuse the two scenarios is dangerous.
Now, as to peeing on a sting...
Virtually all toxins in our tanks are proteins. Anything that breaks down or modifies proteins will help.
Think of clear egg white. Mostly protein. When it is broken or modified it becomes white and firm- or as it is correctly referred to, denatured.
What processes can cause that. Heating for one (hence soak fingers in hot water, as hot as you can stand).
Another, acid or alkali.....mix eggwhite with lime juice. It will set.
Another would be ammonia. This is where the peeing on jellyfish stings comes from. However, we dont produce ammonia but urea/uric acid, which may also do the job. - Im unsure.
Anyways, those are the tried and true methods.
--if it works on a bee sting, it will probably work on a "tank Sting"
Virtually all toxins in our tanks are proteins. Anything that breaks down or modifies proteins will help.
Think of clear egg white. Mostly protein. When it is broken or modified it becomes white and firm- or as it is correctly referred to, denatured.
What processes can cause that. Heating for one (hence soak fingers in hot water, as hot as you can stand).
Another, acid or alkali.....mix eggwhite with lime juice. It will set.
Another would be ammonia. This is where the peeing on jellyfish stings comes from. However, we dont produce ammonia but urea/uric acid, which may also do the job. - Im unsure.
Anyways, those are the tried and true methods.
--if it works on a bee sting, it will probably work on a "tank Sting"
poke75
Active member
I know for a fact that ammonia works on manawar (sp?) stings. Three of us in my family got into a coupld of them in Florida when I was a kid.
The lifeguard came buy with a bottle of ammonia and cotton balls. Wet the stings down and instant reliefe!!
The lifeguard then proceeded to "scoope" out about a dozen of these critters. The tentacles on some of them were about 25' long. Cool critters but man do they burn!!
They burn bad enough I would try the peeing thing if the crowd was small or I was drinking.
The lifeguard came buy with a bottle of ammonia and cotton balls. Wet the stings down and instant reliefe!!
The lifeguard then proceeded to "scoope" out about a dozen of these critters. The tentacles on some of them were about 25' long. Cool critters but man do they burn!!
They burn bad enough I would try the peeing thing if the crowd was small or I was drinking.
ouspeedbump
New member
If I ever get stung by a jellyfish, I can assure you that I will not hesitate to pee down my own leg. Pain is the only reason I don't have my tatoo yet. :eek2:
After 4 surgeries, (2 major, 2 minor) you'd think I'd be better at it, huh?
eddybabyhd
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Adam, get two more knives down in there and try to wedge it out
"DONT LET THE INVISABLE FIRE BURN MY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was stung by a man-o-war in padre a few years ago collecting peppermint shrimp. It seriously hurt worse than anything I have ever felt. I was free diving on the jetty and can up with the tentacles all over my face and back. I have a picture of myself at the doctors office shortly after. You can barely see my eyes, its was bad. Thank god i am not allergic to bees!!!!!!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006-12-03-Melbourne_FL_USA-manowar.JPG
thats a pic of the dreadful things
"DONT LET THE INVISABLE FIRE BURN MY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was stung by a man-o-war in padre a few years ago collecting peppermint shrimp. It seriously hurt worse than anything I have ever felt. I was free diving on the jetty and can up with the tentacles all over my face and back. I have a picture of myself at the doctors office shortly after. You can barely see my eyes, its was bad. Thank god i am not allergic to bees!!!!!!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006-12-03-Melbourne_FL_USA-manowar.JPG
thats a pic of the dreadful things
